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 Post subject: americans are stupid?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:38 am 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE

just gonna ask, is this a accurate representation of americans, or do they only show the worst few?
(im sure there are americans out there that know whats going on in the world)

also, have fun watching that :)


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Yep, that's every last one of us. To a 'T'. We really should have corks on all our forks.

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Now, Xenus, I know you haven't been around here long but I'm sure you've got to know some of us Americans and can assume that we aren't all that ignorant.

To believe we are all that dumb, because you saw it on the interwebs is probably just as stupid as the people in that clip.


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i understand most americans are not dumb, (thats why i said:(im sure there are americans out there that know whats going on in the world) )

but it was more of an excuse to show that video, its more of a people in general can be stupid, theres also one of those videos for the british, and i havent checked for other countrys

im also sure they just didnt show the ones that ansered the questions correctly :)


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I think they are only showing people from Minnesota in that video.











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I think they are only showing people from Minnesota in that video.

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I am outraged! :shock:

http://www.midwestsites.com/stellent2/groups/public/documents/pub/mws_am_ed_000924.hcsp


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Well, people in general are ignorant. I think everyone is at a different angle of ignorance to others depending on where they live, their experiences and influences....

Sure, intelligence helps...but it doesn't fix it.

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I had seen the middle part where they are asking people to identify countries... poor Australia your fucked...

As a poli sci major these videos make me very sad....

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GodOfGophers wrote:
Master Gui-Jan wrote:
I think they are only showing people from Minnesota in that video.

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I am outraged! :shock:

http://www.midwestsites.com/stellent2/groups/public/documents/pub/mws_am_ed_000924.hcsp

OMG!

I hope your SAT score is higher than your states average. That's just sad. And to think I was actually upset with my score.

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those things are so low most the time... I never took the SAT but I took the ACT and scored very well...but the Illinois avg is like 20 however we do test 100% of high school students through mandatory state testing of the Prairie State Achievement Test

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SAT? ACT?

i dont mean to sound stupid, but what are those things?


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Xenus wrote:
SAT? ACT?

i dont mean to sound stupid, but what are those things?


They are standardized tests used by colleges to measure "intelligence" or ability in reading, writing, grammar, vocabulary, math, and science (logic)

East and West Coast tend to like the SAT while central US tends to use ACT ... a lot of schools accept both...just another way to compare candidates besides GPA which tends to be fairly meaningless

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Dragon Fire wrote:
Xenus wrote:
besides GPA which tends to be fairly meaningless


As an educator, I totally agree. There is rampant grade inflation in the public school system today.

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Grade indifference might be a better way to describe it. At least that's what I've come across.

I would assume that those of us on this board are all above average, even in a state as smart as Minnesota.


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GodOfGophers wrote:
Grade indifference might be a better way to describe it. At least that's what I've come across.

I would assume that those of us on this board are all above average, even in a state as smart as Minnesota.


But of course the Canucks here surpass all. Canadian school systems FTW!! :P

j/k, I have my gripes with education here as well. There's always something to complain about :wink:

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Bah, those numbers are all wierd anyway... the SAT's are supposed to top out at 1600... like the good ol' days !!!

What is a perfect score now?


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don't you get like 1400 for writing your name correctly on the test?

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SAT. ACT. GPA. Guys you're not helping.
Even though I know it is a scoring system for test in order to apply for certain schools around the USA and other countries some of us might not entirely know why this is such and how it functions.

I'm from Greenland and we just go by the grades.

BTW I just score a B at project planning at business school.

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The SAT and ACT are tests that most 16-18 years old students in the US take to basically determine their level of academic achievement. For the most part, colleges use this as a part of their assessment of students for admission into schools.

GPA stands for Grade Point Average and really is just and another fancier term for grades. It is far from exact as many states and local education agencies use different formula to determine what is an A or a B and so on.

In general, the SAT and ACT and the few other tests out there do a much better job at telling where a student is at knowledge-wise than GPA.


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any idea if those tests can be done online? seems interesting to see how smart i am for american standards :P


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I'll admit that most Americans don't know as much as they should about the world around us, but I'm confident that most of us know more than the people displayed on this video.

The one guy naming all the countries was obviously crazy too.

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Xenus wrote:
any idea if those tests can be done online? seems interesting to see how smart i am for american standards :P


No. They don't work like that. These test are exremely expensive to develop and they guard the "items", the actual questions they ask, heavily.


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hmmm.. I don't remember signing a consent form for that....


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A co-worker took this picture last month and sent it to me today. I had to share it with the world. This thread came to mind shortly afterwards heh

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/59756


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i think that sign says national family literacy day, saturday november 3
noon to 3pm, and....
special aplies to pets?

somebody translate please :)


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Xenus wrote:
i think that sign says national family literacy day, saturday november 3
noon to 3pm, and....
special aplies to pets?

somebody translate please :)


double check the sign's spelling of 'literacy'.


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A co-worker took this picture last month and sent it to me today. I had to share it with the world. This thread came to mind shortly afterwards heh

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/59756


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Well did a little research for those of us who doesn't know what ATC and SAT is.

Both of them are test used to see is af prospective student eligeble to be accepted to the school.

The SAT point system is max 1600 without the written test. Max 2400 with the written test.
The written test is a small essay written during 30 minutes.

The ATC point system is max 36 points.

In SAT there are three categories four with the 30 min test. Math, writing and critical reading. The two latter are of course in english.

ATC got four categories, five with optional witten test. Math, English, Reading and Science.

This show where either SAT or ATC is predominant test.

Hoped it helped others.

Info from Wikipedia

P.S. Ask me I'd take the ATC. Why? It's cheaper.

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i have a similar map of the US, it shows how people call soft drinks, colourred by county(what would anybody use this map for?)

from comparing that map with the one from wikipedia(about the tests)i see that the west/east coast generrally have the same, and the part in between is different

oh, and i noticed literacy being spelled wrong, that was obvious, but i couldnt really understand the "special aplies to pets"(still dont know what it actually says)


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