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How well did Revenge of the Sith live up to your Expectations?
Poll ended at Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:48 pm
5 - Far Surpassed all Expectations 33%  33%  [ 9 ]
4 - Surpassed my Expectations 33%  33%  [ 9 ]
3 - Met my Expectations 30%  30%  [ 8 ]
2 - Did not meet my Expectations 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
1 - Did not even come close to meeting ANY of my Expectations 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
0 - Worst Movie Ever 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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How well did Revenge of the Sith live up to you expectations?

Let us know the reasons it did or didn't as well.

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I'll just say that I'm going again tonight - which is praise few movies have ever gotten from me.

I'm going to write a good review of it afterwards, and I'll post it on the forums (being conscious of spoilers, also).

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End was very good, middle was slow.

I liked it, but not sure how it stacks up to the original. I may need ot see it again.


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OMFG! I was speechless coming out of the theatre... really. FINALLY the creativity was there. There was a familiarity that was absent from the first 2. It was SO good that it almost excuses the first 2, and that's saying something. Somehow, now there's a coherency to the whole 6 films that just wasn't happening with the 5. Incredible.

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So at the theater one man who was about seven feet tall as in a vader costume...amazing job a little kid in a yoda costume..and a guy in a naboo secuirty force/pilot uniform very cool needed a few stormtroopers honestly or 2 crimson guards next to vader I would have flipped out!

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Okay so the first 30minutes were terrible...Obi wan should not crack terrible jokes totally did not work for me...Vader at the end screaming and all that also didn't do much for me...maybe a fit of rage in which he kills a few officers...Natalie Portman looked terrible at first really skinny...her faced seem streched and shrunken anerexic like...but then later she turned back into the natalie portman we all love...Old men doing flips in the fights...fairly weak the fights did not compare much to darth mual vs. obi-wan and qui-gon (although the connection between the ability to appear as a blue glowly is revealed towards the end of the film)...Oh and the wookies looked to fake almost computer animated/plasticy

Also overall it felt rushed at times...like they had a certian point they had to get to and a story to tell and part of the flow got lost in the cutting

Best Parts
montage of jedi being killed by clone troopers
Yoda fliping out and killing 2 clone troopers who were about to kill him
Yoda force pushing 2 crimson guards.
Opening space battle was awesome..but the jedi starfighter looked different..ugly with a larger more bubbly cockpit downright ugly


Despite all that I loved it :) saw the 12:01 showing on wed/thurs morning

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IF your afraid of spoiler's you shouldn't be reading this thread anyhow...
...also YOU SHOULD HAVE ALREADY WATCHED IT BY NOW, unless for some reason you don't have it where you are yet.

I went back and watched Episode IV after watching III, and it really was very, slow paced in comparison...It's like III is action..action...action...action...action.....action...action...frankenstein

Sometimes I wish they just toned it down and let it be slightly quieter at times to mesh it better with ep IV...oh well. ( oh, I think they should go back and freshen up the attack on the death star with some nice cgi x-wing action that show them really going at it as well)

Ep III was great though, I'm going to watch it again in about 12 hours...oh and as much as the wookies seemed to be played up they didn't utilize them enough!!! I wanted more kashyyk!!!

(oh, Frankenstein refered to Vader busting out of the chair)

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I went back and watched Episode IV after watching III, and it really was very, slow paced in comparison...
I think when watching all six, one should take a 20-30 minute break between III and IV for this reason, 20 years are supposed to pass between the two so things would have cooled down a bit or at least obtained some sort of routine. Also, IV, being the first one, has to set up the story, so it is, in effect, the start of a separate saga.

Oh and I agree, if you haven't seen it yet, WHY NOT?!!! I know people who have seen it twice already!

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hehe look what happened in my town(article from local newspaper): http://www.lafayettejc.com/news20050520 ... 5612.shtml

Itr's really a damn shame for those people. Luckily there were no problems when I saw it.

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Oh and I agree, if you haven't seen it yet, WHY NOT?!!! I know people who have seen it twice already!


Because some of us actually have lives and families that need to come first. I'm not such a geek that I absolutely have to see the very first showing of the movie.

That being said.... the wife and I just got back from watching it. I walked out of the theater feeling like I got my money's worth. I couldn't say that after Episode 1, and I was kinda ambivalent about Episode 2.

One thing that I actually do like about Episodes 1-3 is Ewan McGregor's performance as Obi-Wan. The resemblance to Sir Alec Guinness is amazing. He also completely nails the speech pattern. This guy impresses me more and more every time I see him in a movie.

The one consistant thing I don't like about the 3 newest movies is.... the casting of Anakin. Take Haden Christensen(sp?)... I can't tell if he's just a bad actor, if the script he had to work with makes it hard to look like a good actor, or if he just wasn't right for the part. George Lucas could have done much better in the casting of the character. He played the same kind of whiny, brooding kid in "Life As A House".

I enjoyed seeing Chewie in the movie... just wish his part could have had more beef to it.

And yeah... the part where Vader gets the suit is very reminiscent of a Frankenstein movie. A little bit of a let-down, if you ask me.

But taken as a whole.... very entertaining. It was nice to see things finally tie into the original trilogy. I just wish my Varactyl in-game could move like the one in the movie!

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Opening space battle was awesome..but the jedi starfighter looked different..ugly with a larger more bubbly cockpit downright ugly


Did you happen to notice that the cockpit was shaped like the cockpit of a TIE Fighter? Not terribly attractive, but one of the many neat ways they tied the more aesthetically-inclined Old Republic ship models into those from the era of the Empire.

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Opening space battle was awesome..but the jedi starfighter looked different..ugly with a larger more bubbly cockpit downright ugly


Did you happen to notice that the cockpit was shaped like the cockpit of a TIE Fighter? Not terribly attractive, but one of the many neat ways they tied the more aesthetically-inclined Old Republic ship models into those from the era of the Empire.


yes, I noticed that! At first I only noticed the similarity to the the jedi starfighter...but it sure did have that nice like octogon front window on it...and the flaps fold out to give more of a TIE look as well!

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I saw it for the second time last night. Still frickin awesome. I noticed a few things more this time around.

By the end of the film, Palpatine is running around with a few clones with suits highlighted in red. If you look closely at the helmets, they are in Stormtrooper armor.

As Anakin is coming into the room on the lava planet (whatever it was called), when he's about to kill the seperatist leaders, he's preceded by little miniature MSE mouse droids that make the same noise as the ones in the original trilogy.

The sound effects of the Corvette (which may or may not have been the Tantive IV, I couldn't make up my mind), in at least one scene were actually taken from the Millenium Falcon's SFX from the original trilogy.

At the very end when Vader is looking out the viewport at the Death Star Project, standing next to him is a young Moff Tarkin. Very cool.

Did anyone get an exact count of the number limbs cut off? I suspect Lucas has an amputee fetish of some sort.

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The sound effects of the Corvette (which may or may not have been the Tantive IV, I couldn't make up my mind)
I'm guessing it was, the senator was speaking to a Captain Antilles whom he gave the droids to. It's likely the same Captain Antilles who owned the droids while on the Tantive IV in Episode 4. It's quite possible to suggest then that the ship is the same (could've been the Tantive III or Tantive II though!!!)

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At the very end when Vader is looking out the viewport at the Death Star Project, standing next to him is a young Moff Tarkin. Very cool.
It's good that they got an actor who looked similar to Peter Cushing.

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Did anyone get an exact count of the number limbs cut off? I suspect Lucas has an amputee fetish of some sort.
Well when you have a weapon like the lightsabre, fights are most likely ended by the loss of a limb rather than actual death. It just makes sense (and looks cool!).

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At the very end when Vader is looking out the viewport at the Death Star Project, standing next to him is a young Moff Tarkin. Very cool.
It's good that they got an actor who looked similar to Peter Cushing.

You know that was CG right? :)


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LOL Obo.. you ARE joking right? (i wouldn't put it past them).

Your Tantive II or III theory was what I was thinking. I did catch the Captain Antilles thing, but somehow the ship doesn't look right for the Tantive IV. I'm thinkin' it's a precursor to the IV. It's too fat, and not long enough. And of course the paintjob is all wrong, but that can easily be fixed. I'm thinkin' it's not the same ship.

Speakin' of ships, I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't see the Falcon at all. The thing is certainly old enough to make it into the film.

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I've heard that there is a YT-1300 in there somewhere, but no mention if it was the Falcon.

In fact there were some red YT-1300s in Ep II on Naboo.


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LOL Obo.. you ARE joking right? (i wouldn't put it past them).

Hehe, actually I think it's just a guy in a mask.


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LOL Obo.. you ARE joking right? (i wouldn't put it past them).

Hehe, actually I think it's just a guy in a mask.
Yeah if it were CG, it would've been a much better likeness rather than a near likeness.

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Near likeness as in younger? :P


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Near likeness as in younger? :P
nah, the face was the wrong shape too.

It's like the likeness between Sir Alec Guinness and Ewan McGregor, they're similar but obviously different people.

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ARE YOU GUYS SERIOUS??

The Young Moff Tarkin is obviously CG, if you can't agree on that your all nuts, and my opinion of your keen perception is falling rapidly... :)

Oh, and you see a YT-1300 as they pull into that huge spaceport thing on Coruscant, it's closer to the bottom half of the screen. 8)

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I've heard that there is a YT-1300 in there somewhere, but no mention if it was the Falcon.


Yeah there was at least one I saw, it was landing at the Senate building on one of the landing platforms in one scene.

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ARE YOU GUYS SERIOUS??

The Young Moff Tarkin is obviously CG, if you can't agree on that your all nuts, and my opinion of your keen perception is falling rapidly... :)

Oh, and you see a YT-1300 as they pull into that huge spaceport thing on Coruscant, it's closer to the bottom half of the screen. 8)

lol. Actually, no, he's not CGI.

There was an article in the Star Wars Insider about a year ago and they showed a production photo of that guy next to a picture of the original Tarkin. It was simply make-up. Maybe a prosthetic too, but I can't remember. It was definitely not CGI.

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Actually, it's this guy:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0701460/

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Glad we solved that one!


Saw it again today. Definately a lot of lost limbs!

Anyone spot the ETs?

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Saw the movie last night... good stuff.

It actually brought out emotion in me and I was really into it, that's more than I can really say for the first two, where I was just like, "Oh, that looks cool!" or "Oh, so that's how that happens". Lucas did an amazing job imo b/c I knew what was gonna happen, but I still was sad/upset when it actually did happen. He tied us to the characters very well in this one.

A couple things that puzzle me...

How does Vader eat? If he eats, how does he use the bathroom?!

Assuming the birth cycle is the same a long time ago in a galaxy far far away as it is today... 9 months of pregnancy, that sure didn't seem like 9 months from the time the movie started til it ended.

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I'm guessing he eats and poops through tubes...

Also, it was probably a few months after the "genesis" that they realized they were pregnant... and it probably took a few months to put humpty dumpty... I mean, Vader, back together again.

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Eating and pooping through tubes?!?!?!

Nah, I'd like to think he gets a shot or injection once or twice a day of nanobots with different functions - like delivering nutrition to his stomach, removing waste from his colon, managing infection as well as blood pressure. The nanobots that delivered the nutrition can also participate in the removal of waste. How do they get out of the body you ask?

I don't know someone help me out here....

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He can take the helmet off.... remember? That takes care of one of those issues.

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There is one thing that puzzels me the most.
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Let's put things together.

Episode III is happening 20 Years Before Battle of Yavin (BBY). Luke and Leia are born approx 9 to 6 month after that, witch mean 19 Y BBY in round numbers.
In the program Behind The Magic it is said that Luke and Leia are both 18years old during ep IV.

What happened?

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Not to mention that Leia remembers her mother and Luke does not.

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How does Vader eat? If he eats, how does he use the bathroom?!
According to cannon, toilets don't exist! :P

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Episode III is happening 20 Years Before Battle of Yavin (BBY). Luke and Leia are born approx 9 to 6 month after that, witch mean 19 Y BBY in round numbers.
In the program Behind The Magic it is said that Luke and Leia are both 18years old during ep IV.

What happened?
Dates are approximate and probably rounded. Plus cannon can change.

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Not to mention that Leia remembers her mother and Luke does not.
This is either an inconsistancy between films or Leia is unaware she is adopted and/or is possibly refering to Bail Organa's wife. Edit: the other possibility is that she doesn't actually know when her mother died and probably doesn't actually remember her but remember's seeing a holopic or something.

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.. or was shown her real mother but told to keep it a secret or something.

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... or seen through the force.
Don't got it to the word, but I remember Yoda telling Luke during training that the force allow him to see the future, past, friends and relative.

She might have seen her mother in her dreams/visions.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:06 pm 
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The guy that played Moff Tarkin is Scorpy from Farscape. A good series if you have never seen it and worth the price of the 40 some odd rentals to see the entire series. Subscribe to Netflix.

I thought some scenes to be too frenetic and and over Cgi'ed.

Thought, overall the whole thing to be very good and better than the previous two, though the fight scene with Darth Maul is the absolute best scene from all six movies. This comes from most of the action being choreographed and actually performed and not Cgi. I understand the jedi have amazing powers, I just believe the green screen stuff was getting out of hand.

Luke is a pathetic jedi master compared to what the masters were doing in the prequel movies.

If you watch closely the ships were very good "early models" of what you will see in the later movies.

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