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I'm thinkin, i'm thinkin.........

Bah freakin dah, how am I bragging!

ok

A: 180

R: None

120 - Astronauts are better than average but not genius

A: 12

R: 12 Seconds of Wright Brothers first flight, being a first step towards "space" flight.

That makes me think it have something to do with Hadamard. But I don't know where the first one comes into that, unless the answer is infinity!

The use of the word "prime" in the second clue suggests a prime number.

The first clue, being "re: Astronauts IQ" suggests it's not actually the IQ of an astronaut but related to it. Possibly the time taken to complete and Astronaut's IQ test.

So it's a prime number relating to astronaut's IQ.

7?

The number of letters in the name Jacques (and it's prime)?

I'm guess the answer is 1 as it is the only value represented that actually has a numerical quantifier.

So while you could have solved the riddle just with the first clue, and some leaps of logic, with the three clues you should have every indicator you need to direct you to the solution.

Don't get frustrated if we don't figure it out, only half of us are from Mensa.

Hmmm. Well, Saint Thomas Aquinas, the patron saint of knowledge, might be involved because you mentioned Da Vinci Code...

Code:

If you mix up all the letters in:

RE ASTRONAUT IQ

you get:

AQUINAS RETORT

but also:

QUITE SO ERRANT
REASON QUIT ART
NEAT IRAQ TOURS

Or, my favorites:

IRAQ ANUS TORTE
ANTERIOR SQUAT

Confusing, because I'm not sure if Jacque and Jean are supposed to be common French names (because they're very uncommon in the US), or are hints in themselves. Jacques Clustow(sp?) was an explorer, like most astronauts. Mixed up indicated that some words might be anagrams, "suspect" indicates that there's a person as an answer... not a number... but the original question asks what number you're thinking of

. Jean-Jacques Favier is a German-born French astronaut that flew on one mission (STS 78 in 1996, but neither of those numbers are prime). But, there's not enough info in the first clue to point to that...
There's another French astronaut named Chretien Jean-Loup Jacques Marie that flew three missions. But, there's also someone named Jean-Jacques Velasco that wrote a book on UFOs... And finally, Jean-Jacques Rousseau once said "Quit thy childhood, my friend, and wake up!" (a quote I've always hated)

... so, in conclusion, I'd need another hint

Let me guess, the answer is so obvious, we'll kick ourselves when you tell us?

/sigh

The answer is 43, and you damn well know why. :roll:

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Wed May 25, 2005 4:21 pm ]
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Here is a random riddle. (by the way I made this myself, so this is a bit of a test run) What number am I thinking of? Clue: Re: Astronaut IQ Answer: ? Rationale: ?

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Wed May 25, 2005 10:34 pm ]
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Hmmm, not a single post. Should I give you another clue? I thought you guys were interested in stuff like this.

Author:	Azzameen85 [ Wed May 25, 2005 11:01 pm ]
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To be honest I dn't get it at all.

Author:	Cordalis [ Wed May 25, 2005 11:05 pm ]
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I'm thinkin, i'm thinkin.........

Author:	Azzameen85 [ Wed May 25, 2005 11:11 pm ]
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Cordalis wrote: I'm thinkin, i'm thinkin......... Don't brag...

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Author:	Cordalis [ Wed May 25, 2005 11:14 pm ]
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Bah freakin dah, how am I bragging! ok A: 180 R: None

Author:	bigyak [ Thu May 26, 2005 12:23 am ]
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180 - it's halfway around the world?

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Thu May 26, 2005 8:22 am ]
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Cordalis wrote: Bah freakin dah, how am I bragging! ok A: 180 R: None I have a rule that I will not comment on Answers without a Rationale. However for your first guess I will break my rule and say your answer is incorrect. I'm constructing a second clue. Let me know when you guys think you are ready for it.

Author:	X2-PB [ Thu May 26, 2005 9:03 am ]
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120 - Astronauts are better than average but not genius

Author:	Cordalis [ Thu May 26, 2005 9:55 am ]
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A: 12 R: 12 Seconds of Wright Brothers first flight, being a first step towards "space" flight.

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Thu May 26, 2005 10:14 am ]
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X2-PB wrote: 120 - Astronauts are better than average but not genius Incorrect. I like your premise though! I too should be bound for the starry skies! Cordalis wrote: A: 12 R: 12 Seconds of Wright Brothers first flight, being a first step towards "space" flight. Incorrect. Interesting theory! As a partial hint I will say that I beleive this is a difficult problem. The answer will not be as straightforward as the guesses so far.

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Thu May 26, 2005 10:33 am ]
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Ok this may be a bit early, but I've decided to give my next clue. My good friend Jacques said there is a prime suspect As always I need an answer and a rationale. Happy Hunting!

Author:	Obo [ Thu May 26, 2005 10:43 am ]
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That makes me think it have something to do with Hadamard. But I don't know where the first one comes into that, unless the answer is infinity!

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Thu May 26, 2005 11:00 am ]
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Obo wrote: That makes me think it have something to do with Hadamard. But I don't know where the first one comes into that, unless the answer is infinity! I have to confess, somewhat shamefully after reading a random article on Hadamard, that I did not recall hearing of him before you mentioned his name. I am happy however that someone is starting to really think about this!! I will say however that it will not require a degree in mathematics to solve this riddle.

Author:	Kharlaq [ Sat May 28, 2005 5:16 pm ]
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I suggest 183 as the answer, based on clue #1 alone. When I look at the other clues my thinking doesn't necessarily make much sense so this might be far off. Tell me if I'm right or wrong in a PM and you can have my explanation. I don't know why I'm even trying here, I just know I'm going to feel stupid when I'm proven wrong

Author:	bigyak [ Mon May 30, 2005 12:57 pm ]
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TAN TRIO SQUARE tan(3) ^2 = 0.1425 ^ 2 = 0.0203? ONE QUART AS TRI 1/4 * 3 = .75? SQUARE AT INTRO? TRI NOTA SQUARE Damn that NOTA, taking all the glory! NOR A SQUARE TIT? Maybe a round one? A RAT SQUIRT ONE Nasty buggers STAR IN EQUATOR? http://cargobay.starwars.com/webapps/ca ... tail/15822 But, if you're not going to use all the letters, you get math words like: SATURATION QUOTIENTS QUANTISER EQUATIONS ITERATORS QUINTETS SQUARE QUART TEN And interesting non-math words like: RESTAURANT SENORITA SQUIRTER QUESTION TROUTIER URINATES SAURIAN TROUSER TORTURE SNORTER QUEST STAR Ummm... any of that mean anything to anyone?

Author:	Arindel [ Mon May 30, 2005 2:45 pm ]
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poke me with a fork And Yak, you having fun or stealing someone's catnip again

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Mon May 30, 2005 3:00 pm ]
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Arindel wrote: poke me with a fork POKE. You done then?

Author:	X2-PB [ Thu May 26, 2005 6:19 pm ]
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The use of the word "prime" in the second clue suggests a prime number. The first clue, being "re: Astronauts IQ" suggests it's not actually the IQ of an astronaut but related to it. Possibly the time taken to complete and Astronaut's IQ test.

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Fri May 27, 2005 12:43 am ]
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X2-PB wrote: The use of the word "prime" in the second clue suggests a prime number. The first clue, being "re: Astronauts IQ" suggests it's not actually the IQ of an astronaut but related to it. Possibly the time taken to complete and Astronaut's IQ test. I like most of your thinking!

Author:	X2-PB [ Fri May 27, 2005 6:01 am ]
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So it's a prime number relating to astronaut's IQ.

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Fri May 27, 2005 8:43 am ]
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X2-PB wrote: So it's a prime number relating to astronaut's IQ. I didn't quite say that! There are other clues in the clues I've given. I have another clue ready to go when appropriate. EDIT: I'm guessing this is harder than I intended, so let me guide you guys a bit. 1. The initial clue is enought to SOLVE the riddle, not just guess at a number. 2. The clues are not straightforward, you have to think laterally about these clues. Sometimes clues have more than one hint in them as well. 3. I received an illustrated copy of The Da Vinci Code for my recent birthday, and while it's not a stellar book, it was entertaining and inspired me to try my hand at a riddle.

Author:	Talon1977 [ Fri May 27, 2005 1:44 pm ]
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7? The number of letters in the name Jacques (and it's prime)?

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Fri May 27, 2005 1:50 pm ]
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Talon1977 wrote: 7? The number of letters in the name Jacques (and it's prime)? How does that link with the first clue? You guys are doing well, but all the clues connect on at least 2 levels to corroborate the answer.

Author:	Arindel [ Fri May 27, 2005 2:14 pm ]
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I'm guess the answer is 1 as it is the only value represented that actually has a numerical quantifier.

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Fri May 27, 2005 2:57 pm ]
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Arindel wrote: I'm guess the answer is 1 as it is the only value represented that actually has a numerical quantifier. Hmmm, I'm not sure what you are getting at here. Well, I suppose I'll give the 3rd clue: Jean said he was mixed up, he could not be an astronaut So, to summarize: Clue 1: Re: Astronaut IQ Clue 2: My good friend Jacques said there is a prime suspect Clue 3: Jean said he was mixed up, he could not be an astronaut and remember my pseudo-clues: 1. The initial clue is enought to SOLVE the riddle, not just guess at a number. 2. The clues are not straightforward, you have to think laterally about these clues. Sometimes clues have more than one hint in them as well. 3. I received an illustrated copy of The Da Vinci Code for my recent birthday, and while it's not a stellar book, it was entertaining and inspired me to try my hand at a riddle. So while you could have solved the riddle just with the first clue, and some leaps of logic, with the three clues you should have every indicator you need to direct you to the solution.

Author:	Arindel [ Fri May 27, 2005 4:06 pm ]
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Golga Bolg wrote: So while you could have solved the riddle just with the first clue, and some leaps of logic, with the three clues you should have every indicator you need to direct you to the solution. I think you are assuming context, but either way you seem to be having a great time with it. But, I'm afraid I'm either not good at these or unfamiliar in the type of riddle you are proposing. Don't get frustrated if we don't figure it out, only half of us are from Mensa. it might just be that canadian thing

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Fri May 27, 2005 5:14 pm ]
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Arindel wrote: Don't get frustrated if we don't figure it out, only half of us are from Mensa. That's why I'm considering this a trial run. eh!

Author:	bigyak [ Fri May 27, 2005 6:12 pm ]
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Hmmm. Well, Saint Thomas Aquinas, the patron saint of knowledge, might be involved because you mentioned Da Vinci Code... Code: If you mix up all the letters in: RE ASTRONAUT IQ you get: AQUINAS RETORT but also: QUITE SO ERRANT REASON QUIT ART NEAT IRAQ TOURS Or, my favorites: IRAQ ANUS TORTE ANTERIOR SQUAT Confusing, because I'm not sure if Jacque and Jean are supposed to be common French names (because they're very uncommon in the US), or are hints in themselves. Jacques Clustow(sp?) was an explorer, like most astronauts. Mixed up indicated that some words might be anagrams, "suspect" indicates that there's a person as an answer... not a number... but the original question asks what number you're thinking of . Jean-Jacques Favier is a German-born French astronaut that flew on one mission (STS 78 in 1996, but neither of those numbers are prime). But, there's not enough info in the first clue to point to that... There's another French astronaut named Chretien Jean-Loup Jacques Marie that flew three missions. But, there's also someone named Jean-Jacques Velasco that wrote a book on UFOs... And finally, Jean-Jacques Rousseau once said "Quit thy childhood, my friend, and wake up!" (a quote I've always hated) ... so, in conclusion, I'd need another hint

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Fri May 27, 2005 9:05 pm ]
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bigyak wrote: Hmmm. Well, Saint Thomas Aquinas, the patron saint of knowledge, might be involved because you mentioned Da Vinci Code... Code: If you mix up all the letters in: RE ASTRONAUT IQ you get: AQUINAS RETORT but also: QUITE SO ERRANT REASON QUIT ART NEAT IRAQ TOURS Or, my favorites: IRAQ ANUS TORTE ANTERIOR SQUAT Confusing, because I'm not sure if Jacque and Jean are supposed to be common French names (because they're very uncommon in the US), or are hints in themselves. Jacques Clustow(sp?) was an explorer, like most astronauts. Mixed up indicated that some words might be anagrams, "suspect" indicates that there's a person as an answer... not a number... but the original question asks what number you're thinking of . Jean-Jacques Favier is a German-born French astronaut that flew on one mission (STS 78 in 1996, but neither of those numbers are prime). But, there's not enough info in the first clue to point to that... There's another French astronaut named Chretien Jean-Loup Jacques Marie that flew three missions. But, there's also someone named Jean-Jacques Velasco that wrote a book on UFOs... And finally, Jean-Jacques Rousseau once said "Quit thy childhood, my friend, and wake up!" (a quote I've always hated) ... so, in conclusion, I'd need another hint Wow!!! You are so close to figuring this out!!! I will say a good chunk of your deductions are correct. (Therefore some are wrong or not applicable) I'll have to think about offering another clue. (Frankly this note is as much a clue as anything else.) You are missing just one major twist in the solution, as well as a couple of corroborating points!

Author:	bigyak [ Sat May 28, 2005 11:10 am ]
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So, the answer has something to do with Iraqi Anus Torte?

Author:	Obo [ Sat May 28, 2005 11:56 am ]
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When I first saw it I was playing around with anagrams, but the most I got out of it was “Square” or “Question” where the rest didn’t seem to be useful. I thought Square was on the right track if looking for a number. If it’s a squared number and a prime, then the answer is one. Never read to Da Vinci Code.

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Mon May 30, 2005 10:28 am ]
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Well I haven't got another clue, at least not yet. Frankly you guys are so close I'm not really sure you need another clue. You've got the flint and the tinder, you just need to combine them!

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Mon May 30, 2005 1:37 pm ]
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Ok, I'm not sure how yet to give another clue without practically giving it away. Is anyone interested in working on this some more, or are you guys ready for the solution?

Author:	X2-PB [ Mon May 30, 2005 3:21 pm ]
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Let me guess, the answer is so obvious, we'll kick ourselves when you tell us?

Author:	Golga Bolg [ Mon May 30, 2005 3:34 pm ]
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X2-PB wrote: Let me guess, the answer is so obvious, we'll kick ourselves when you tell us? I wouldn't go as far as to say it is "so obvious". However from my position the clues definately point the way to the answer, as well as supporting it in different ways. I'm guessing the reaction will be, "yeah I see how you got there, but I was unlikely to think of it that way". Except for Flyoc, who will be shaking his head in disbelief he didn't get it.

Author:	Obo [ Mon May 30, 2005 3:37 pm ]
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If you are going to tell us its a number written in french there will be hunting parties sent out for you.

Author:	Obo [ Tue May 31, 2005 8:45 am ]
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/sigh The answer is 43, and you damn well know why.