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...do anything even be nice to grandma JUST PLEASE BUY ME THIS!!!




Linky

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Moge

Ooooh neato!

Thats actually the company my old man works for, maybe he can get me one for free.

/enddream

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Romsuiag (Brad)
Former and Third President of Avian

Or better yet, free for all guildies to test out and comment on.

Company - "We request user feedback on our new monitor"
Antan - "Hmmm, I like its sleek look. Crisp color too."
Angelus - "Yes, I can game to my hearts content and those trolls are now almost lifelike"
Jeger - "That's the biggest beer I have ever seen. What was the question again?"

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"I built me a bomb and dropped it on every MFer who got in my way!"

Bolg - If you installed a toilet, I'd never leave. Well I guess I can start using Depends earlier then I expected.

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Dr. Golga Bolg
SWTOR - Golga
Rift - Gnarlwood: Golgar Golgantua Golgate - Retired
WoW - Dalaran: Bolg Golga Virrok All Retired
SWG - Golga Bolg - Doctor (Resident) Retired
Eve - Edge Finn - Limbo
Section 2 - (Former) Director
What am I playing now?: The waiting game

Don't forget the mini fridge.

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- Wiegraf Terrik
SWG: Human Commando/Pistoleer
WoW: Dwarvish Rogue (Herbalism/Alchemy)
EQII: Alazin, High Elf Wizard

Former Section 4 Director

"Please, if anyone were to play Obi-Wan it would be me, with the 'Luke, Luke save me' and the lightsabers going 'Vvvwiinnngg, vvwinggg, vvvWING!' -- Professor Frink

Fully stocked

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X2-PB

Pathfinder Kingmaker Campaign:
Gednan Malithanar - Wizard (1)
Dukin Thunderstrike - Ranger (1)

Star Citizen: - https://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/
AntanKarmola on their forums

Star Wars: The Old Republic: - Not really playing
Antare Karmola - Jedi Guardian (32)
Antan Karmola - Jedi Shadow (21)
Arianae Karmola - Gunslinger (20)

Just found this.

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Moge

Wow

Apparently, forty years of virginity will do strange things to people.

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Liro
"The english language is not a wedding gown, it doesn't get better the more lace you add. It is instead a thong. Less is more." From /.
I need to remind myself of this regularly.

LOL. That guy cant wait to get home every day to play with his joystick...

I personally like the leg straps to keep from getting too excited and falling out of the chair, thus conking himself on the desk.

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"I built me a bomb and dropped it on every MFer who got in my way!"

And the coffee maker!!

/drool

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1st Feb 2008

These pics remind me, do any of you play PC games by connecting the vid card out to a TV? Once the basement is renovated I am contemplating buying a nice 48" widescreen rear projection TV (LCD/plasma is too expensive still). Has anyone tried playing on one before?

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"I built me a bomb and dropped it on every MFer who got in my way!"

I have. I connected my PC to my TV via S-Videa. The primary issue is you cannot see text. Its all blurry.

Reason is, TVs are interlaced - two images put together to make one 60 times a second (50 times in Eurpore). Becuase of this and the fact that Computer monitors do not do this your text on screen is all fuzzy and messed up. In the end it doesn't work out.

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Moge

I have a LCD projector, the Infocus X1. It has a max resolution of 800x600, but things look really nice. It costs about 600-700 dollars now, I think. All you need to get things moving, is a VGA signal splitter, I bought mine here for $22:

http://store.yahoo.com/pctekonline/gwckv2vgamuv.html

This is a cool doo-hickey, it lets you connect 2 monitors (or a monitor and projector...) to your PC. You can also buy a 4 splitter and even daisy chain them if you're into that sort of thing. I now use my PC as my home theatre.

Don't buy one of those Y splitter cables, they ruin the picture. You need a device that actually amplifies the signal so that there's enough juice for 2 monitors.

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Retired Weaponsmith

iJasonT is right, text can be blurry at times, however if you're going through a FPS, that you don't need to read much on playing games on a wide/big screen TV is a whole new experience.

I went through Doom 3 on my 52 Inch widescreen hd tv, with stereo headphones on and damn, that was some intense gaming for a couple weeks.

For something like a MMO, where player interaction (reading text) is a big part, then it wouldn't really be a feesable choice, unless you made all the text large enough to read

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~Ravage™
~I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
~The problem with facts, is that sometimes they don't support your opinion.

good point Rav. For stand alone games this would be really sweet. The picture looks fine the only thing you cannot read is the text. I be flight sims and other FPS' would be sweet on the large screen.

My video card has S-video out so I sometimes hook it up to my TV to want DVDs that "don't play on standard DVD players"

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Moge

LOL!!!

I'd hate to see this guy's electricity bill.

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Romsuiag (Brad)
Former and Third President of Avian

Many of my classes at LSU have projectors that drop down out of the ceiling to project the PC desktop image onto a theater screen. These things are made for use with computers; therefore they do not suffer with blurry text. I find the text to be very readable…. Although I have not tried to read MMO chat on such projectors.

I find that pictures are not as crisp and sharp as they are on the PC monitor. When I played the SWG trailer back in beta for a class speech, I realized how much better the image was on the monitor. Just a few days ago I did a power point presentation that had a lot of jobsite photos; the presentation looked so much better and cleaner on the monitor.

Now the sharpness could be a function of how much the image is being magnified. Maybe with the right fine-tuning some of the classes could get a better image out of their projectors… however if you knew how much they charge us for the technology fee, you would think they were installed by experts.

I can say that the really large screens and projectors used in the physics auditoriums seem to display the physics diagrams very clearly. To me, those classes have better image clarity. However a physics diagram could be a lot easier to project than a game, or jpeg.

those projectors use a progressive scan technology that basically takes every other frame and adds it to its even or odd partner. This is called 3:2 pulldown as you loose every third frame.

Progressive scan is still pretty new and the reason why it is blurry is becuase you are forcing 2 interlaced frames into one. As a result the fames do not line up as they should. Interlacing provides a better picture in some cases do to the fact that your eye can match the interlaced lines better than technology can mash them together.

A TV is fixed at a refresh rate of either 60 or 50 (30 or 25 fps) where a computer screen can be raised much higher then that. This is how you get the crisp clean images on your computer monitor. Raise the Hz from 60 to 80 and you get an even sharper image.

TV signals are still broadcast as interlaced this is why all projectors and TVs are fixed at that rate. Higher end Projectors can raise the refresh rate making a cleaner image but these can be expensive.

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Moge

Or it could just be out of focus!

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X2-PB

Pathfinder Kingmaker Campaign:
Gednan Malithanar - Wizard (1)
Dukin Thunderstrike - Ranger (1)

Star Citizen: - https://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/
AntanKarmola on their forums

Star Wars: The Old Republic: - Not really playing
Antare Karmola - Jedi Guardian (32)
Antan Karmola - Jedi Shadow (21)
Arianae Karmola - Gunslinger (20)

That was my first thought

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~Ravage™
~I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
~The problem with facts, is that sometimes they don't support your opinion.

psshhhh.
Clearly neither of you have worked as a consultant. How in the world would we know if it was out of focus? We would first need to draw up a game plan, strategies our options and flesh out the details of our technologies to better stimulate the market research and our needs.
After we priorities our final actions we could move into the implementation phases where we could begin to gather our look and feel options for video displays and weight the differences to ensure a crisp and clear image.

-been a little while but something like that sounds about right.

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Moge

Or just hit the focus button until you get the best picture.... and realize it still doesn’t touch the one on your desktop. As you can see, I tried this method.

I too occassionally have a dvd that "won't play in a normal DVD player". When that's the case, I have a laptop hooked up via S-Video to the rear projector TV. It's a 57" Sony widescreen and Window's Media Player looks great on it full screen. Only thing is I have to move the couches back another 8 feet or so to get a much better picture.

http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/

MUST HAVE!!!

I thought of that one, Obo, but just didn't think display tech was cheap enough to make it work... But, I forgot about Rich Irishmen.

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--The Hermit

So, I've been waiting for this info to go public for a while...

We've built an 11 foot by 5 foot touch-sensitive, 11,000x6,000 pixel wall...

See it in action:
http://www.accenture.com/xd/xd.asp?it=enweb&xd=services\technology\research\strategic_decision.xml

and:
http://www.accenture.com/xdoc/en/servic ... ch/sdi.swf

or:
http://www.accenture.com/xdoc/en/servic ... ch/iaw.swf

We've got a ton of other video showing some Command and Control military stuff I'm helping with, but can't show it publicly yet.

I know I had a thread going about this before, but Imagine how HARD it is designing applications that:
1) Work with multiple mouse pointers (hands)
2) Are built around thousands of pixels instead of hundreds of pixels
3) Don't just duplicate a big screen laptop.... that join thousands of datastreams into one overall picture that's digestable and shareable...

Oh, and Moge, next time I'm in Chicago, I'll take you there to see it and play with it. Or, if anyone ever gets to DC and wants to play, give me a buzz.

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--The Hermit

That sure is an expensive glass of coke.

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Slugeater, avian member on vacation
DAoC Andromalius lvl 50 Druid [Retired]
SWG Sluggy Dev'lya Smuggler/politician [Retired]
CoH Powerburn lvl 47 Fire Blaster [Retired]
WoW-Europe Andromalius lvl 60 Dwarven Warrior [Active]

You totally forgot the change management phase.

psshhht.

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Dr. Golga Bolg
SWTOR - Golga
Rift - Gnarlwood: Golgar Golgantua Golgate - Retired
WoW - Dalaran: Bolg Golga Virrok All Retired
SWG - Golga Bolg - Doctor (Resident) Retired
Eve - Edge Finn - Limbo
Section 2 - (Former) Director
What am I playing now?: The waiting game

Nice I woudl love to see this thing in action.
I like the hand motion controls this has. Intested of touching the screen you wave your hand in front of the screen to open folders and such.

I would be interested to see who would use this and for what practical uses. I can clearly see its military uses but Im sure private sectors could make great use of it is as well.

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Moge

good for datacenters as well.

Yak that's bananas...b-a-n-a-n-a-s. Very cool though...might need to finally grab that beer with you to check that thing out.

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Ooh! Me too!

Ever seen the movie Minority Report? Reminds me a lot of that.

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Romsuiag (Brad)
Former and Third President of Avian

I had the same thought.

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Dr. Golga Bolg
SWTOR - Golga
Rift - Gnarlwood: Golgar Golgantua Golgate - Retired
WoW - Dalaran: Bolg Golga Virrok All Retired
SWG - Golga Bolg - Doctor (Resident) Retired
Eve - Edge Finn - Limbo
Section 2 - (Former) Director
What am I playing now?: The waiting game

Cool, another post about our Wall in PC Magazine:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1770206,00.asp

And a video on CNN:

http://cf.nbc4.com/dc/sh/videoplayer/vi ... eight=543'

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--The Hermit