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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:12 pm 
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OK I got a wierd question from a Producer at work today. He is making an App for seating arrangments and he wants to use PHP/MYSQL on the internal server which is Windows IIS (don't ask me why).

Anyway, he asked me "why can't the IT guys install PERL on IIS?" I said I have no idea, why do you need PERL? He said "I need PHP and PERL and PHP are the same thing."

I said, umm no it isn't. He said yes it is - rinse repeat 50 times.

Anyway, can you install PHP via PERL? Why would you?

For PHP just download the installer for IIS and bingo bango you are done, right?

I have never and will never use IIS so it seems a little odd to me.

...we also need to install MYSQL

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PHP is not Perl. They are both different languages. PHP is much easier.

Usually, PHP comes with Perl installed so you can program in it, as well.

IIS isn't so bad, if configured correctly. In fact, in can be safer than Apache if done right.

IIS might need the free Perl plugin compiler for IIS to run.

Just install the PHP installer for IIS, and follow the directions (I think you have to change some permissions... haven't done it for a few versions).

MySQL's pretty easy, as well.

I'd advise just using ASP instead of PHP, though. Almost exact same as PHP, different syntax, easier to pickup, easier to maintain... And then, have it talk to an Access database. You could build that in 8 hours... and very easy for the next guy.

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OK that is what I thought but this guy was very certain that PERL installed PHP and I was damned sure he was wrong. FYI I was right!

I have the PHP installer on a disk that Ill bring to work tomorrow and have the IT guys install from.

PHP/SQL I know very very well. I was given a massive application to create before taping starts on the 30th so I dont have time to learn andthing new.

As it is Im interfacing PHP, XML and Flash to create the App which I have never done - although looking online it seems very easy to do. Looks like Ill be pulling some 20 hour days for the next few!

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I installed PHP on IIS but it was a royal pain for some reason. I am rebuilding the server pretty soon and will be going the apache route this time I think.

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PHP and Perl are completely different, but they are the same crap (from my pov). And you dont install stuff 'via' Perl. You install Perl, or PHP, or both.

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iJasonT wrote:
FYI I was right!

PHP/SQL I know very very well. I was given a massive application to create before taping starts on the 30th so I dont have time to learn andthing new.

As it is Im interfacing PHP, XML and Flash to create the App which I have never done - although looking online it seems very easy to do. Looks like Ill be pulling some 20 hour days for the next few!


Yep, you were right.

Good call on not learning anything new - go with what you know if you have a deadline.

Have you checked out Obo's code from the game he posted? It interfaced PHP and Flash and I learned a lot from spending a few hours looking at the code.

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bigyak wrote:
I learned a lot from spending a few hours looking at the code.

Despite the fact you never put it to any use... hint hint!!


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Obo wrote:
bigyak wrote:
I learned a lot from spending a few hours looking at the code.

Despite the fact you never put it to any use... hint hint!!


:)

You are correct, sir. I need to get back to the important things in life.

Just for you, I'll teach a class on Flash interfacing with XML. Maybe an assignment will be to make a game using XML. Great frikken idea. So, I gotta make a better one first. :)

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I got the files today. Looks like someone already started a lot of the Flash actionscripting stuff so I am referencing that.

After spending a little time with it I think I am going to bridge Flash and PHP with XML. You don't really need to but it makes the information more flexible as I need to print the data out once generated.

What they want is actually pretty simple. I just honestly dont know if I have time to trouble shoot it all and add al the 'idiot proofing' as this app will be used everyday but the producers of the show. :shock:

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Outsourcing to India costs only about $5/hour for good programmers...

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this is seriously proprietary stuff.

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