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BTW, the screen shots they have are old ones from the beta, using the skeleton graphics engine. They have stated that they know the graphics suck and had not implemented the new engine at the time those were taken.

* No levelling treadmill

There are no character levels in Roma Victor. None. Instead there's the huge, diverse skill tree that we've already mentioned. There are no level-based restrictions by design or consequence like you'll find in most MMORPG's. You won't be forced to find people of a similar level in order to play in a group and you won't be restricted to certain types of encounter. Of course this also means that you won't be trying to catch up with friends that have played more than you (and therefore 'levelled' faster), or indeed trying to slow your own development and/or 'level up' your friends so that they can come and hunt with you again. Character development in Roma Victor is much more like real life.

* No camping

There are no fixed regular spawns, no uber loot drops and no reasons to find yourself having to sit at a certain location waiting for hours on end for your group's turn to kill something and loot it. The world is dynamic and varied and NPC's have their own 'lives'. If you run into some bandits on the road between Eboracum and Londinium then that's because those bandits are 'working the road' and they'll be doing so until killed, captured (and usually sold) or chased off. If a group of barbarians should find themselves at a Roman villa, are confident that there isn't sufficient Roman support nearby and raze the villa to the ground, taking what loot they can, then that villa has been razed. Someone (NPC or player) would have to repair the ruin, renovate and reoccupy it before they'd be able to consider raiding it again.

Hair grows when you're not online and you'll have to get it cut if you want to keep it short. Like most things, with the right tool and the right skill someone can perform an essential service for the community.

Unfortunately due to technical limitations, hair length will only be visible in certain steps or stages but if you let your character go ungroomed then it might end up pretty hairy - depending on your character's ethnic origins.

Female characters have less problems than males in this respect - they don't grow beards and women with long hair are socially acceptable throughout the 'known' world. I guess that's part of the trade-off for having some slight physical limitations during character creation. There are interesting parallels with real life here, which I don't really want to touch with a barge pole. But when we're recreating the competitive and social dynamics of the world as close to historical circumstances as we can, we can't avoid bumping into a few.

Anyway along with dirt, hair growth is actually a surprisingly substantial part of existence in 180A.D. When was the last time you had your hair cut?

-KFR

P.S. If you're offline for a month, you've been away for quite a while and you'll certainly want to at least freshen up.

These look good to me.

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Yes, been keeping an eye on this for a while now. Seems almost too good to be true. I wonder if this little company can pull it off.

If they don't make graphics a priority, it will get easier (I hope)

Arindel wrote:

If they don't make graphics a priority, it will get easier (I hope)

That's a catch-22. If they don't, the game will lose a lot of it's appeal, but then maybe I'm just shallow

Arindel wrote:

If they don't make graphics a priority, it will get easier (I hope)

That's a catch-22. If they don't, the game will lose a lot of it's appeal, but then maybe I'm just shallow

Doh! Those idease are almost copied verbatim from our game development forum!!! We must have a mole in our midsts!

bigyak wrote:

Doh! Those idease are almost copied verbatim from our game development forum!!! We must have a mole in our midsts!

Convenient that Mole has only posted there once and said he hoped to post again soon...

Wanted List
Any player character that kills a member of your guild (including NPC's hired by your guild) will be placed upon your guild's Wanted List. NPC's hired by your guild will be extremely aggressive towards characters on its Wanted List. Also characters on your guild's Wanted List will be highlighted as such when inspected by player members of your guild. Characters remain on your Wanted List until killed by one of your guild or manually removed by someone belonging to one of the top two ranks within that guild.

Note that players can be placed on their own guild's Wanted List and if they are killed by a member of their own guild, their killer does not then become wanted.

Now this is funny....

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These are the fruits of a dev team that has a logical though process, listens to its fans, and has no abortion of a licensing agreement with a washed up director.

Author:	Tetran [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:30 am ]
Post subject:	Roma Victor - anyone following it?
This game looks to be amazing. It looks to finally be a complex "world" game bringing in a deep mix of social, combat, crafting, and rp elements into a game. The people developing it are a privately funded group, not a corp like SOE. It has no monthly fees to play after you purchase the software. They will be implementing a mechanism to exchange real world money for ingame money. I actually don't have a problem with that since it's free monthly, and you're helping them with future development costs, and not paying someone on eBay. Check it out. www.roma-victor.com

Author:	Talon1977 [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:05 pm ]
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Holy crap. I'm impressed. I will be buying this one on launch day. I'm all about no monthly fee. Stupid monthly fees.

Author:	Tetran [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:13 pm ]
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My immediate goals in this game will be to create a bustling stop along a well traveled road. A rest stop for campaigning legions. The world is MASSIVE and will take time to journey, so these stops I see will be important. I want to build a restaurant/bar/inn first, later add a bath house, and a barracks for me slave guards. Farms will be next and barns for live stock. You can capture NPC's from other cities, and barbarians and make them your slave. Slaves will work in your buildings, protect them while you're gone, and so forth. Hopefully this little mecca will turn into a village. The building construction tradeskill is insane, and will allow awesome city construction. With the money->game conversion, I plan on dropping some change for a good sized slave group to get me started in all my endeavours. From there, it's back to my favorite RPG role... the Politician

Author:	Tetran [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:27 pm ]
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BTW, the screen shots they have are old ones from the beta, using the skeleton graphics engine. They have stated that they know the graphics suck and had not implemented the new engine at the time those were taken.

Author:	bigyak [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:37 pm ]
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Very nice.... this might be something to spend some time on!

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Author:	Ravage [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:50 pm ]
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Reminds me a little of "A Tale in the Desert"

Author:	Talon1977 [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:24 pm ]
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Tetran wrote: BTW, the screen shots they have are old ones from the beta, using the skeleton graphics engine. They have stated that they know the graphics suck and had not implemented the new engine at the time those were taken. I was wondering about that. Hey Yak... do we have Avian sig graphics around here someplace? something to put in our signatures on other forums (like the one for this game?)

Author:	dbakke [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:36 pm ]
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As a fan of Rome on HBO, this is good timing!!! I can be Vorenus for the next year while I wait for season 2 Would be nice to know if they'll meet their "Autumn" release date, or if we should hibernate for the winter.

Author:	iJasonT [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:36 pm ]
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These look good to me. Quote: * No levelling treadmill There are no character levels in Roma Victor. None. Instead there's the huge, diverse skill tree that we've already mentioned. There are no level-based restrictions by design or consequence like you'll find in most MMORPG's. You won't be forced to find people of a similar level in order to play in a group and you won't be restricted to certain types of encounter. Of course this also means that you won't be trying to catch up with friends that have played more than you (and therefore 'levelled' faster), or indeed trying to slow your own development and/or 'level up' your friends so that they can come and hunt with you again. Character development in Roma Victor is much more like real life. Quote: * No camping There are no fixed regular spawns, no uber loot drops and no reasons to find yourself having to sit at a certain location waiting for hours on end for your group's turn to kill something and loot it. The world is dynamic and varied and NPC's have their own 'lives'. If you run into some bandits on the road between Eboracum and Londinium then that's because those bandits are 'working the road' and they'll be doing so until killed, captured (and usually sold) or chased off. If a group of barbarians should find themselves at a Roman villa, are confident that there isn't sufficient Roman support nearby and raze the villa to the ground, taking what loot they can, then that villa has been razed. Someone (NPC or player) would have to repair the ruin, renovate and reoccupy it before they'd be able to consider raiding it again.

Author:	Tetran [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:49 pm ]
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The whole journey through Elysian Fields when you die sounds very interesting. The difficulty of leaving the afterlife and returning to your body depends on how virtuous you lived your life

Author:	Talon1977 [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:29 pm ]
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WOW.. look at this: KFR (dev team) wrote: Hair grows when you're not online and you'll have to get it cut if you want to keep it short. Like most things, with the right tool and the right skill someone can perform an essential service for the community. Unfortunately due to technical limitations, hair length will only be visible in certain steps or stages but if you let your character go ungroomed then it might end up pretty hairy - depending on your character's ethnic origins. Female characters have less problems than males in this respect - they don't grow beards and women with long hair are socially acceptable throughout the 'known' world. I guess that's part of the trade-off for having some slight physical limitations during character creation. There are interesting parallels with real life here, which I don't really want to touch with a barge pole. But when we're recreating the competitive and social dynamics of the world as close to historical circumstances as we can, we can't avoid bumping into a few. Anyway along with dirt, hair growth is actually a surprisingly substantial part of existence in 180A.D. When was the last time you had your hair cut? -KFR P.S. If you're offline for a month, you've been away for quite a while and you'll certainly want to at least freshen up.

Author:	bigyak [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:25 pm ]
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iJasonT wrote: These look good to me. Quote: * No levelling treadmill There are no character levels in Roma Victor. None. Instead there's the huge, diverse skill tree that we've already mentioned. There are no level-based restrictions by design or consequence like you'll find in most MMORPG's. You won't be forced to find people of a similar level in order to play in a group and you won't be restricted to certain types of encounter. Of course this also means that you won't be trying to catch up with friends that have played more than you (and therefore 'levelled' faster), or indeed trying to slow your own development and/or 'level up' your friends so that they can come and hunt with you again. Character development in Roma Victor is much more like real life. Quote: * No camping There are no fixed regular spawns, no uber loot drops and no reasons to find yourself having to sit at a certain location waiting for hours on end for your group's turn to kill something and loot it. The world is dynamic and varied and NPC's have their own 'lives'. If you run into some bandits on the road between Eboracum and Londinium then that's because those bandits are 'working the road' and they'll be doing so until killed, captured (and usually sold) or chased off. If a group of barbarians should find themselves at a Roman villa, are confident that there isn't sufficient Roman support nearby and raze the villa to the ground, taking what loot they can, then that villa has been razed. Someone (NPC or player) would have to repair the ruin, renovate and reoccupy it before they'd be able to consider raiding it again. Doh! Those idease are almost copied verbatim from our game development forum!!! We must have a mole in our midsts!

Author:	GodOfGophers [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:32 pm ]
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Yes, been keeping an eye on this for a while now. Seems almost too good to be true. I wonder if this little company can pull it off.

Author:	Arindel [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:41 pm ]
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GodOfGophers wrote: Yes, been keeping an eye on this for a while now. Seems almost too good to be true. I wonder if this little company can pull it off. If they don't make graphics a priority, it will get easier (I hope)

Author:	Obo [ Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:09 pm ]
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Lucas(Arts)

Author:	Tetran [ Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:18 pm ]
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They're going through another sweep of beta invites now, so get your application in if you haven't done so already. www.roma-victor.com then click on the beta link.

Author:	Arindel [ Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:01 pm ]
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and as always. What happens in BETA stays in BETA.

Author:	Cyrus Rex [ Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:51 pm ]
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awww shucks. I wish they would all do like blizzard and do away with the NDA as soon as beta began. That was the coolest and biggest reason I ended up playing WoW. I had almost no interest in WoW until beta info started to hit the net. For people like us who watch games as they are developed, the beta info is great advertisement and interest generator. I much rather hear what a player has to say about a game than a magazine or a company suit. Good luck to you guys that applied for this beta.

Author:	Rocklar [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:46 pm ]
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Arindel wrote: If they don't make graphics a priority, it will get easier (I hope) That's a catch-22. If they don't, the game will lose a lot of it's appeal, but then maybe I'm just shallow

Author:	GodOfGophers [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:02 pm ]
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Rocklar wrote: Arindel wrote: If they don't make graphics a priority, it will get easier (I hope) That's a catch-22. If they don't, the game will lose a lot of it's appeal, but then maybe I'm just shallow You may be shallow but you also have a good point. People coming from WOW, for example, are going to have high expectations. Just read how you can only have one character per account. This is hardcore folks.

Author:	Tetran [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:07 pm ]
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There's a number of Chilastran's from SWG grouping up over there under the name Legio XXVI Astrum Veteranum. It's under the role play section. I'm not sure how well this collection of people will ultimately work out, having not much more in common than playing on the same SWG server. But it's worth a shot. I want to play this game primarily RP.

Author:	Arindel [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:10 pm ]
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Rocklar wrote: Arindel wrote: If they don't make graphics a priority, it will get easier (I hope) That's a catch-22. If they don't, the game will lose a lot of it's appeal, but then maybe I'm just shallow For gaming, I'll take function and depth over beautiful graphics (though there are limits to how low you will go). I realize that stance be unpopular with most gamers.

Author:	Tetran [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:17 pm ]
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The complexity and depth of this game is not going to be for "all gamers". I predict that this game will have a much different audience, in the long run atleast. Certainly, the bulk of the WoW subscription base would not enjoy this game. I just hope it works well and is out soon. I don't think I could play another D&D fantasy type game for awhile. On another note, I see Talon making his mark on the forums lol. It won't be long until he's founding and ruling the city of Libertaria.

Author:	Angelus [ Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:00 pm ]
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bigyak wrote: Doh! Those idease are almost copied verbatim from our game development forum!!! We must have a mole in our midsts! Convenient that Mole has only posted there once and said he hoped to post again soon...

Author:	TheMole [ Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:46 am ]
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Angelus wrote: bigyak wrote: Doh! Those idease are almost copied verbatim from our game development forum!!! We must have a mole in our midsts! Convenient that Mole has only posted there once and said he hoped to post again soon... wha? who? eh? muah? ga! This game looks cool.

Author:	Tetran [ Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:51 am ]
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Now this is funny.... Quote: Wanted List Any player character that kills a member of your guild (including NPC's hired by your guild) will be placed upon your guild's Wanted List. NPC's hired by your guild will be extremely aggressive towards characters on its Wanted List. Also characters on your guild's Wanted List will be highlighted as such when inspected by player members of your guild. Characters remain on your Wanted List until killed by one of your guild or manually removed by someone belonging to one of the top two ranks within that guild. Note that players can be placed on their own guild's Wanted List and if they are killed by a member of their own guild, their killer does not then become wanted.

Author:	Rocklar [ Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:14 pm ]
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Tetran wrote: Now this is funny.... Quote: Wanted List Any player character that kills a member of your guild (including NPC's hired by your guild) will be placed upon your guild's Wanted List. NPC's hired by your guild will be extremely aggressive towards characters on its Wanted List. Also characters on your guild's Wanted List will be highlighted as such when inspected by player members of your guild. Characters remain on your Wanted List until killed by one of your guild or manually removed by someone belonging to one of the top two ranks within that guild. Note that players can be placed on their own guild's Wanted List and if they are killed by a member of their own guild, their killer does not then become wanted. Wow...VERY Roman! I'll definitely continue to follow this game and appreciate any links to new information!

Author:	iJasonT [ Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:28 pm ]
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you see! THAT is how the BH system should have worked. So simple yet pretty fun.

Author:	Tetran [ Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:37 pm ]
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These are the fruits of a dev team that has a logical though process, listens to its fans, and has no abortion of a licensing agreement with a washed up director.

Author:	dbakke [ Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:56 pm ]
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Tetran wrote: These are the fruits of a dev team that has a logical though process, listens to its fans, and has no abortion of a licensing agreement with a washed up director. Not sure what you are referring to?

Author:	bigyak [ Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:26 pm ]
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Thanks, I applied.

Author:	tobiasds [ Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:17 pm ]
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I applied as well.

Author:	Arindel [ Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:20 pm ]
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I'm signed up. Let's see where it goes from here. Course, I can't tell you anything if I get in as I just signed a non-disclosure

Author:	Tetran [ Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:08 pm ]
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But if we all get in we can chat amongst ourselves, since technically we aren't diclosing anything we don't know

Author:	Master Gui-Jan [ Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:52 pm ]
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I applied as well. If we end up with enough members in the BETA I will see what we can do about getting a private forum set up for us to talk about the BETA.

Author:	iJasonT [ Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:03 pm ]
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I just got my invite! I applied a while ago, when I first read about this game here.

Author:	Romsuiag [ Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:55 am ]
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I applied as well.

Author:	Talon1977 [ Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:53 am ]
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Woohhoooo!!!! Downloading the client as we speak. I got in!!