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/slap that's the U.S Civil War you dolt!

(otherwise known as the War of Northern Aggression).

/slap that's the U.S Civil War you dolt!

(otherwise known as the War of Northern Aggression).

Talon1977 wrote:

/slap that's the U.S Civil War you dolt!

(otherwise known as the War of Northern Aggression).

I'm afraid that my American history is rather lacking (I've never studied it). I was under the impression that the war or independance effectively ran into the civil war. Was there actually a period of peace between the two?

X2-PB wrote:

Talon1977 wrote:

/slap that's the U.S Civil War you dolt!

(otherwise known as the War of Northern Aggression).

1776 war for independance

1850's/1860's Civil War.

between those 2, you have...other history

X2-PB wrote:

Talon1977 wrote:

/slap that's the U.S Civil War you dolt!

(otherwise known as the War of Northern Aggression).

1776 war for independance

1850's/1860's Civil War.

between those 2, you have...other history

Speaking of which, when was the English Civil War/War of the Roses? (I think those were the same thing.) And uh, in topic, are there any good English Civil War games? :mrgreen:

I have nothing else constructive (or destructive) to add to the thread.

Ravage wrote:

I have nothing else constructive (or destructive) to add to the thread.

Where is Calgary, anyway? Isn't that just a less-populated area of Montana? I seem to remember going to a blue-grass music (if you can call it that) festival there 20 years ago... I'm pretty sure it was before they had electricity, anyway. :twisted:

On an unrelated note, I'm thinking about doing a week or 2 tour of the states with the severance pay they're giving for staying till the end. Never done it before, anyone have suggestions on where to go/what to see?

What do you want to see?

tobiasds wrote:

What do you want to see?

The Kenedy Space Centre.

... the Saturn V rocket center which contains a complete intact Saturn V Rocket suspended from the ceiling and divided into sections.

I might be able to swing a tour of the Pentagon... just bring a passport and a few other forms of picture ID (and give me enough notice to... er.... check up on ya).

bigyak wrote:

I might be able to swing a tour of the Pentagon... just bring a passport and a few other forms of picture ID (and give me enough notice to... er.... check up on ya).

I'll confirm first-hand, this is a very cool place to see!

tobiasds wrote:

... the Saturn V rocket center which contains a complete intact Saturn V Rocket suspended from the ceiling and divided into sections.

They have one of those (or at least a full size model) in the science museum in London.

I liked the Air and Space Museum in DC too

X2-PB wrote:

tobiasds wrote:

... the Saturn V rocket center which contains a complete intact Saturn V Rocket suspended from the ceiling and divided into sections.

They have one of those (or at least a full size model) in the science museum in London.

A real Saturn V rocket stood 363 feet tall. With the gaps between each section the display is over 400 feet long. The building is over 450 feet, it's massive. You sure it's a complete Saturn V or just an engine or capsule?

Author:	Talon1977 [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:57 am ]
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Anybody know what the best American Revolution wargame is out there? If they ever made a Total War game out of the Revolution, it would be SWEEEEET. There's one called the Campaign 1776, but it looks pretty complex. Might be fun though.

Author:	X2-PB [ Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:38 pm ]
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Sid Meier's Gettysburg?

Author:	Talon1977 [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:26 pm ]
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/slap that's the U.S Civil War you dolt! (otherwise known as the War of Northern Aggression).

Author:	Dragon Fire [ Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:36 pm ]
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Talon1977 wrote: /slap that's the U.S Civil War you dolt! (otherwise known as the War of Northern Aggression). Also know as the south still have not gotten the fact that they lost the war so lets put up confederate flags in our front lawns But don't worry about X2....He just has a mental block on this particular war where the brits got kicked in the arse But wouldn't a revolution game be pretty boring...Line up here men and FIRE! not a whole ton of tactical depth, or at least ease of translating relatity of troop management, morale introduction of new techniques of warfare using weapons that would barely allow it...

Author:	Talon1977 [ Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:41 am ]
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Have you played Gettysburg DF? Tactically, it wouldn't have to be too terribly different from that. And with much better graphics, and a deeper Campaign and overall strategic mode, I think it would be great. And it would be a TON of fun if the developers focused more on the great personalities from the Revolution. Henry Knox, Nathaniel Green, Joseph Reed, Admiral Lord Howe and William Howe, Charles Lee, and so many more are such vibrant characters in history that if you really focused on the people, I think it would make a fantastic game - and educational at that.

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Author:	X2-PB [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:53 am ]
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Talon1977 wrote: /slap that's the U.S Civil War you dolt! (otherwise known as the War of Northern Aggression). I'm afraid that my American history is rather lacking (I've never studied it). I was under the impression that the war or independance effectively ran into the civil war. Was there actually a period of peace between the two?

Author:	Arindel [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:30 am ]
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X2-PB wrote: Talon1977 wrote: /slap that's the U.S Civil War you dolt! (otherwise known as the War of Northern Aggression). I'm afraid that my American history is rather lacking (I've never studied it). I was under the impression that the war or independance effectively ran into the civil war. Was there actually a period of peace between the two? 1776 war for independance 1850's/1860's Civil War. between those 2, you have...other history

Author:	X2-PB [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:32 am ]
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Arindel wrote: X2-PB wrote: Talon1977 wrote: /slap that's the U.S Civil War you dolt! (otherwise known as the War of Northern Aggression). I'm afraid that my American history is rather lacking (I've never studied it). I was under the impression that the war or independance effectively ran into the civil war. Was there actually a period of peace between the two? 1776 war for independance 1850's/1860's Civil War. between those 2, you have...other history Ahh, well thanks for clearing that up for me!

Author:	Onto Kracken [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:40 am ]
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Speaking of which, when was the English Civil War/War of the Roses? (I think those were the same thing.) And uh, in topic, are there any good English Civil War games?

Author:	Ravage [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:16 pm ]
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Arindel wrote: X2-PB wrote: Talon1977 wrote: /slap that's the U.S Civil War you dolt! (otherwise known as the War of Northern Aggression). I'm afraid that my American history is rather lacking (I've never studied it). I was under the impression that the war or independance effectively ran into the civil war. Was there actually a period of peace between the two? 1776 war for independance 1850's/1860's Civil War. between those 2, you have...other history Like the war of 1812 where we kicked your sorry asses back to the whitehouse? You fixed it up nice since the burning btw. I have nothing else constructive (or destructive) to add to the thread.

Author:	Talon1977 [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:21 pm ]
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lol!

Author:	X2-PB [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:31 pm ]
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Onto Kracken wrote: Speaking of which, when was the English Civil War/War of the Roses? (I think those were the same thing.) And uh, in topic, are there any good English Civil War games? I'll have to get back to you on that, didn't really study that period either (either that or I didn't pay attention in class!). The English Civil War occured during the reign of Charles I (who came after James I, who came after Elizabeth I, who came after Mary I, Edward VI, Henry VIII whom everyone should know about!). Charles I was executed by Parlement for Treason and the country was then governed by Parlement under Oliver Cromwell for a few decades until his death. Then no strong leader was found to control Parlement so they crowned Charles I's son, Charles II, as king and the Monarch as reigned ever since. The War of the Roses was during the time of Henry VIII and his children (Edward, Mary and Elizabeth) and I believe it was between the English and the French.

Author:	bigyak [ Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:09 pm ]
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Ravage wrote: I have nothing else constructive (or destructive) to add to the thread. Where is Calgary, anyway? Isn't that just a less-populated area of Montana? I seem to remember going to a blue-grass music (if you can call it that) festival there 20 years ago... I'm pretty sure it was before they had electricity, anyway.

Author:	tobiasds [ Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:27 pm ]
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The war of the roses ended in the late 15th century after 30 years. It could be called one of the english civil wars. It was fought by two factions both descended from Edward III who felt they had claims to the crown.

Author:	Mantison Tau'rus [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:03 pm ]
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Ah, closed mindedness for the win...

Author:	Ravage [ Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:49 am ]
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Tour of the pentagon eh? might be interesting. Is it one of those things where you get led around on a leash by a perky woman who says; "and behind this door which is magnetically sealed, with retinal scanning, voice print authentication, dna profiling security system, is where the leaders dictate world policy and plot demises of everyday citizens!.... But you can't go in there."? Or do you actually get to see cool stuff? Brought a good point up though, I'll probably have to see about getting a Visa if i'm gonna be touring the states with all the crap going on these days. As far as where and when I'm planning to go... keep in mind its just in the "thinking stage" at this point. would probably be the last 2 weeks of september, and most likely staying in the top half of the actual states. (i'll venture to the lower states some day when i'm no longer afraid of getting gang raped and stabbed in my sleep by billy-bob and his brother bubba who have 3 and a half teeth between them) So, anything worth seeing in the north? If i made it all the way to DC, Air and space would be cool, and I suppose i could tollerate other museums if i was there anyway.

Author:	bigyak [ Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:08 pm ]
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And, yes, civilians and non-americans can tour the Pentagon. It's actually officially a museum as well, with 40 exhibits within that rotate a new one in every few months. One even has pictures of the crash, along with a melted part of a airline seat fused with a steal beam within a glass case. During the normal tours, you have some young military guys that give the tour to groups of about 30 adults and kids... but you need to schedule that far in advance. .. though I can give a tour as well, so I'd show you some of the other interesting things (though not the really interesting things).

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Author:	Ravage [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:46 am ]
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bigyak wrote: Ravage wrote: I have nothing else constructive (or destructive) to add to the thread. Where is Calgary, anyway? Isn't that just a less-populated area of Montana? I seem to remember going to a blue-grass music (if you can call it that) festival there 20 years ago... I'm pretty sure it was before they had electricity, anyway. Well, you know the area has changed a lot since I was 6, so we actually have electricity now. Now even though your attempt at mockery failed, I'll still answer your question. Calgary 3 hours north of montana, 2 if I'm driving, and is the single fastest growing city in canada. Tech market is booming so much, they're outsourcing shit to ontario, cause they have cheaper labour, which is why I'm losing my job next month.... On an unrelated note, I'm thinking about doing a week or 2 tour of the states with the severance pay they're giving for staying till the end. Never done it before, anyone have suggestions on where to go/what to see? Consider this thread hijacked.

Author:	Dragon Fire [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:00 pm ]
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Chicago, San Fran, New York...maybe DC....Just don't go to far south...we wouldn't want you getting the wrong impression of our beautiful country

Author:	Talon1977 [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:30 pm ]
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/slap!

Author:	tobiasds [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:03 pm ]
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Ravage wrote: On an unrelated note, I'm thinking about doing a week or 2 tour of the states with the severance pay they're giving for staying till the end. Never done it before, anyone have suggestions on where to go/what to see? What do you want to see? I think there is no site quite like the Las Vegas Strip (Las Vegas Boulevard) and you could see the dam and the Grand Canyon. Chicago is a great city and wouldn't be terribly far for you. I am partial to the our capital now and it has some great museums and such to visit. For museums you can't beat the D.C. area. Two great aviation museums, art museums, history museums, battle sites.

Author:	X2-PB [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:10 pm ]
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tobiasds wrote: What do you want to see? The Kenedy Space Centre.

Author:	Dragon Fire [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:15 pm ]
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X2-PB wrote: tobiasds wrote: What do you want to see? The Kenedy Space Centre. No such place we do have a Kennedy Space Center

Author:	tobiasds [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:28 pm ]
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Regardless of how you spell it, it is an awesome place to visit and a great way to spend a day in central Florida. They have made vast improvements over the last 10 years to the tour including the satellite prep facility, observation gantries, and the Saturn V rocket center which contains a complete intact Saturn V Rocket suspended from the ceiling and divided into sections.

Author:	X2-PB [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:32 pm ]
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tobiasds wrote: ... the Saturn V rocket center which contains a complete intact Saturn V Rocket suspended from the ceiling and divided into sections. They have one of those (or at least a full size model) in the science museum in London.

Author:	bigyak [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:59 pm ]
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I might be able to swing a tour of the Pentagon... just bring a passport and a few other forms of picture ID (and give me enough notice to... er.... check up on ya).

Author:	Rocklar [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:08 pm ]
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bigyak wrote: I might be able to swing a tour of the Pentagon... just bring a passport and a few other forms of picture ID (and give me enough notice to... er.... check up on ya). I'll confirm first-hand, this is a very cool place to see!

Author:	X2-PB [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:10 pm ]
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Rocklar wrote: bigyak wrote: I might be able to swing a tour of the Pentagon... just bring a passport and a few other forms of picture ID (and give me enough notice to... er.... check up on ya). I'll confirm first-hand, this is a very cool place to see! You mean you can seriously actually tour the pentagon? Do you have to be an American citazen?

Author:	tobiasds [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:06 pm ]
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X2-PB wrote: tobiasds wrote: ... the Saturn V rocket center which contains a complete intact Saturn V Rocket suspended from the ceiling and divided into sections. They have one of those (or at least a full size model) in the science museum in London. A real Saturn V rocket stood 363 feet tall. With the gaps between each section the display is over 400 feet long. The building is over 450 feet, it's massive. You sure it's a complete Saturn V or just an engine or capsule?

Author:	Dragon Fire [ Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:23 pm ]
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I liked the Air and Space Museum in DC too

Author:	tobiasds [ Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:44 pm ]
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Dragon Fire wrote: I liked the Air and Space Museum in DC too There is a new annex in Dulles about 15 minutes from my house that is really nice.

Author:	Onto Kracken [ Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:52 pm ]
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You do need a passport, Ravage, but I don't think you need to apply to the Embassy for a visa if you're just doing some traveling in the U.S. See this site. Also, I really liked the Spy Museum in D.C.

Author:	X2-PB [ Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:10 pm ]
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tobiasds wrote: X2-PB wrote: tobiasds wrote: ... the Saturn V rocket center which contains a complete intact Saturn V Rocket suspended from the ceiling and divided into sections. They have one of those (or at least a full size model) in the science museum in London. A real Saturn V rocket stood 363 feet tall. With the gaps between each section the display is over 400 feet long. The building is over 450 feet, it's massive. You sure it's a complete Saturn V or just an engine or capsule? 400 feet sounds about right (though I was rather small at the time) There's a possibility it could have been half scale, but it was pretty huge! I could look it up I suppose!

Author:	dbakke [ Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:28 am ]
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I need a passport just to leave my house...ever since I met up with BigYak and Moge the secret police have been hounding me. In all seriousness, there are several excellent exhibits in the D.C. area that give a great perspective on the American worldview (both good and bad) that those who are interested would find intriguing....