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Talon1977
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Introduced in January 1983 at a price of $9,995, the Lisa is often overlooked in favor the cheaper, less powerful, later Macintosh, which is a pity, as the Lisa introduced a slew of innovations, many of which still are not implemented in "modern" operating systems. ...

The original Lisa had two 5.25" Twiggy drives designed inhouse and 1 MB of RAM. With the introduction of the Lisa 2 the Twiggy drives were replaced with a single Sony 3.5" drive as the Sony was cheaper and Apple wanted to standardize the Mac and Lisa floppy media. The Lisa 2 shipped with only 512 KB RAM and was generally sold in the "2/5" configuration, with an external 5 MB Profile hard drive. The Lisa 2/10 sported a redesigned motherboard and had an internal 10 MB Widget HD. A Macintosh XL is generally the same as a Lisa 2/10 but with MacWorks installed.


Read Full Story Here: http://www.applefritter.com/node/3191

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I wasn't even alive at the time. :shock:

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I wasn't even alive at the time. :shock:
Same, here, but only by about three weeks!

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We couldn't afford a Lisa...but in 1985 I got an Apple IIe. It wasn't until the late 80's my sister (named Lisa) got a Lisa for college.

Most here won't believe it but in 1986 I was programming hundreds of lines of code in basic. I enjoyed it, but we moved away from a great CompSci instructor to a school that wasn't as forward thinking so I didn't get the opportunity to get back into programming until college. By then it was too late, I had discovered beer.

Raise your hand if you remember the Olympics game on the IIe...like pole vaulting...where you slammed the up/down arrow keys and then the space bar to take off and release!

Hehehehe, thanks Talon...dredged up some fun, introverted memories with this post.

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Raise your hand if you remember the Olympics game on the IIe...like pole vaulting...where you slammed the up/down arrow keys and then the space bar to take off and release!


I remember that one.

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Nice historical find, Talon. I've never owned an Apple - not sure what that means. :P

I was a Basic MONSTER back in the day. I wrote a Basic program that allowed a carpenter to enter a measurement as a whole number and a fraction. It then converted the number to a decimal value, made calculations and then converted the decimal value back to a whole number and a fraction...since that was the only way those measurements made sense to the guys in the shop. That was a pretty interesting subroutine. About six months ago, the guy who was my boss at the time called me up to see if I could update it to run on XP. :lol:

Why is it old tech is always fun to talk about, even a source of geek-pride, but most of us would chew off our left hand before going back to it?

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As a side note of the other apple comps the Apple I ald it's successor used the 6502 processor which can be found in several other computers/entertainment systems of the mid 80's.

Some of my friends and I are speculating that the prize and lack of sale thereof of the Lisa is to some extent the reason of the cheap computers and entertainment systems that came to us that era..

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Azzameen85 wrote:
As a side note of the other apple comps the Apple I ald it's successor used the 6502 processor which can be found in several other computers/entertainment systems of the mid 80's.

Some of my friends and I are speculating that the prize and lack of sale thereof of the Lisa is to some extent the reason of the cheap computers and entertainment systems that came to us that era..



I had a Mac as my first machine, it had the 6803 chip, if ya popped the case and looked the chip was made by IBM.

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Nice historical find, Talon. I've never owned an Apple - not sure what that means. :P

I was a Basic MONSTER back in the day. I wrote a Basic program that allowed a carpenter to enter a measurement as a whole number and a fraction. It then converted the number to a decimal value, made calculations and then converted the decimal value back to a whole number and a fraction...since that was the only way those measurements made sense to the guys in the shop. That was a pretty interesting subroutine. About six months ago, the guy who was my boss at the time called me up to see if I could update it to run on XP. :lol:

Why is it old tech is always fun to talk about, even a source of geek-pride, but most of us would chew off our left hand before going back to it?


Thats a great story. I can say that BASIC was the last programming language I fully understood. I wrote many applications and games including a Pac-Man game. Coincedentally, that was probably in 1983.

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dbakke wrote:
We couldn't afford a Lisa...but in 1985 I got an Apple IIe. It wasn't until the late 80's my sister (named Lisa) got a Lisa for college.

Most here won't believe it but in 1986 I was programming hundreds of lines of code in basic. I enjoyed it, but we moved away from a great CompSci instructor to a school that wasn't as forward thinking so I didn't get the opportunity to get back into programming until college. By then it was too late, I had discovered beer.

Raise your hand if you remember the Olympics game on the IIe...like pole vaulting...where you slammed the up/down arrow keys and then the space bar to take off and release!

Hehehehe, thanks Talon...dredged up some fun, introverted memories with this post.


I remember that game quite fondly. The high diving part especially. Played that for hours with friends.

I was lucky enough too to have a fantastic Computer Science teacher in High School. He let us work at our own pace, which meant we were done with our course work for the year in about a month. After that we could do whatever we liked as long as he could review it.

A few of us made a fantastic baseball simulation, called Top of the 7th, which put you in charge of a tie game at the top of the 7th inning. It was a blast tinkering with it for months to get it just right. Those were good times!

I totally understood BASIC but never another language no matter how hard I tried. :(
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a guy in my programming class in high school.... wrote a X-Wing knockoff in basic... it actually worked... with a death start to blow up at the end... I think i managed a poker game that year...

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