I havn't used it...but it does "sound" pretty secure. Why would you need this?
I'm not so sure about the self-destruct thing it's got going...
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| Author: | Rocklar [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:35 pm ] |
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Anyone ever use one of these? Good marketing or truly secure? http://www.ironkey.com/ |
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| Author: | Cordalis [ Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:26 am ] |
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I havn't used it...but it does "sound" pretty secure. Why would you need this? I'm not so sure about the self-destruct thing it's got going...
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| Author: | Xenus [ Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:06 am ] |
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seems to be a secure thingy, but i think selfdestruct is a little bit over the top, what if i accedently drop it? maybe if you are a really important government official carrying around really important data, it would be nice id use it if i would carry around military/corperate/whatever secrets, but just for my own stuff, id use something else(thats less expensive and i don't have to worry about it selfdesctucting when something happens) seriously... is the selfdestruction really needed? |
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| Author: | Rocklar [ Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:38 am ] |
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I was mainly just intrigued by the ... err ... intrigue of it. I do have a small handful of documents for work that we're obligated to keep very well secured but I've been using TrueCrypt and that works very nicely. However, since the Ironkey seems like it might make things a little easier in some ways and a little more cumbersome in others, I'll pass on it because of the price. |
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| Author: | iJasonT [ Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:45 pm ] |
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...well it looks cool anyway. I know almost nothing about secure drives but if I was in the market I would look at this one. Price is right and technology 'sounds' good, in theory at least. I guess the primary point is, things are only as secure as the intelligence/determination of those wanting to gain access to it. being hardware encrypted seems like a nice hurdle. |
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| Author: | Cyrus Rex [ Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:16 pm ] |
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Wow that is some cool stuff. Thanks for the link Rocky |
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| Author: | Tetran [ Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:09 pm ] |
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That has "hide your pr0n from your spouse and boss" written all over it 
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| Author: | Xenus [ Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:53 am ] |
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Tetran wrote: That has "hide your pr0n from your spouse and boss" written all over it
thats what the internet is for, why would you buy a whole secured thing if you could do the same by sending the pr0n to your own email(of which only you know the password) still a top 10 use though 
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| Author: | Dragon Fire [ Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:01 am ] |
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if i had documents that i needed secure i wouldn't really want them to self-destruct on a whim....lol you know every guy who gets one secretly wants to self destruct it to see if it does anything cool... |
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| Author: | slugeater [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:26 am ] |
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"Self destruct" does not exist in computer data. You can always find what has been on a hard drive, it just depends on how much money you're willing to put into it. A hard disk drive is the main issue in the current scandal in France involving our ex-Prime Minister, it was deleted with army-grade tools, and still the police managed to read it after a while. The only way to 100% secure data is to manage for the investigator never to get hold of the hardware. In France, military computers that are retired are grinded into dust and mixed with concrete blocks. |
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| Author: | Dragon Fire [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:41 am ] |
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from what i gathered slug they were talking about hardware self destruct....much more effective then simple erasing/wiping of data.... |
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| Author: | iJasonT [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:42 am ] |
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Dragon Fire wrote: from what i gathered slug they were talking about hardware self destruct....much more effective then simple erasing/wiping of data....
That was my understanding as well. Hardware destruction. |
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| Author: | Arindel [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:08 am ] |
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iJasonT wrote: Dragon Fire wrote: from what i gathered slug they were talking about hardware self destruct....much more effective then simple erasing/wiping of data.... That was my understanding as well. Hardware destruction. not to mention all you have to do is overwrite the space with random characters for deleted records and you can't ever get back what was once there. Also, a nice effective electronic magnet will do wonders for a wipe, or is that a myth? |
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| Author: | slugeater [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:05 pm ] |
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Arindel wrote: iJasonT wrote: Dragon Fire wrote: from what i gathered slug they were talking about hardware self destruct....much more effective then simple erasing/wiping of data.... That was my understanding as well. Hardware destruction. not to mention all you have to do is overwrite the space with random characters for deleted records and you can't ever get back what was once there. Also, a nice effective electronic magnet will do wonders for a wipe, or is that a myth? Both are. Whatever you do with your hard drive, it can be read back. The means necessary will vary with the deletion process used. Deleting your files is enough for your 12 year old son, and it escalates from there to "disintegrating the hard drive is what it gets for the CIA to be unable to read it". Because magnetic fields always leave a faint trace even if you try to hide it, with a magnet or otherwise. That's valid for all magnetic storage, bu the way. |
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| Author: | Azzameen85 [ Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:43 pm ] |
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slugeater wrote: Arindel wrote: iJasonT wrote: Dragon Fire wrote: from what i gathered slug they were talking about hardware self destruct....much more effective then simple erasing/wiping of data.... That was my understanding as well. Hardware destruction. not to mention all you have to do is overwrite the space with random characters for deleted records and you can't ever get back what was once there. Also, a nice effective electronic magnet will do wonders for a wipe, or is that a myth? Both are. Whatever you do with your hard drive, it can be read back. The means necessary will vary with the deletion process used. Deleting your files is enough for your 12 year old son, and it escalates from there to "disintegrating the hard drive is what it gets for the CIA to be unable to read it". Because magnetic fields always leave a faint trace even if you try to hide it, with a magnet or otherwise. That's valid for all magnetic storage, bu the way. I'd say the most simple way to erase data effectively is to start by deleting the data. Then run it through some heavy duty magnets. Then open the case and hammer down the components. Burn the ruined componenst and as a last thing, throw it out to the sea. |
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| Author: | X2-PB [ Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:58 am ] |
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Azzameen85 wrote: ... and as a last thing, throw it out to the sea. Except that's not very good for the environment!
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| Author: | Xenus [ Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:50 pm ] |
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X2-PB wrote: Azzameen85 wrote: ... and as a last thing, throw it out to the sea. Except that's not very good for the environment! i think he means in a box, a cardbord box
or he means a metal case(welded shut) trowing it in the deepest part of the sea, and when down there, it will be destroyed by presure alone, and to be sure, trow in some dynamite |
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| Author: | Deak Almar [ Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:08 pm ] |
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Yeah but doesn't the government use dolphin now? This message will self destruct in 30 seconds. |
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