I hate these types of conversations for many reasons, usually because I'm afraid I'll tread on peoples feelings by saying something they don't like. So forgive me if that happens, but I see this as an important issue.
Golga, you've mentioned a few times that you feel that you get screwed out of an item that binds on pickup... I am sorry that I was the last guy that grabbed a sword you wanted, and couldn't later give it to you because it bound to me. Even though it really upset you, you very very nice about it and accepted my apologies. BUT, I think that you forget the fact that I could use it to (and have it equipped for the past 4 days).
If there's something that someone else wants, I will always give it to them if I can. I would definately have given you the sword afterwards if it wasn't bound to me. I figure that I can always get another one, or someone else will give me something just as good... but I did roll for this item because I thought I could use it. Maybe this has happened to others as well?
Other things everyone should think of:
Sometimes fighting Van Cleef (or some other big boss surrounded by other big bosses) gets a bit stressful, and people try to make quick decission that are sometimes wrong.. and I think people might be holding in a bit more anger/frustration than such a situation calls for.
Tobias, I know you've but a ton of effort and time and energy into this game. You're the first to jump to send bags or items or help others out, which is admirable and wonderful to be the recipient of. BUT, it seems that you're really letting this loot thing get you down and upset you. If it's that important that you get some special loot, then I feel you need to identify that up front.
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This is damned bush league horseshit. I pray no one in the sentinels ever does this. If you do, rethink why you are in a guild in the first place.
That seems pretty harsh. I don't think those are things that you should say to others, or especially to us.
Shit happens. Instead of these types of words, I would much prefer if we came up with a set of guidelines (not rules) for how to best handle loot. I never played Beta, and when I do play WoW I usually have a wife talking to me, a dog eating my foot, and a boss calling me on the phone. If I don't have a plan in place for what I'm going to do before hand, I might grab loot off a body that I think others have left behind because I'm always at the back of a group casting spells. It gets complicated sometimes trying to remember what 5 people are doing, who they're fighting, etc... especially when there is very little inter-party communication.
I think it would help me (and probably everyone) much more if we set up some guidelines like:
1) Always identify one (and only one) person to pull Mobs
2) If there is an item (or type of item) you're really trying to pick up, say so when the party first forms. Same for if you want to mine.
3) Try to only loot when there is no fighting going on.
4) If there is fighting going on, make sure you ask "Loot?" before doing so.
5) If there is fighting and you feel like you're getting overrun, say "Help"
6) Only roll on items that you can use. If no one rolls, then feel free to grab it off the corpse afterwards
Bolg, Tobias, I respect and like both of you guys very much. I don't mean to single you out at all, just to hopefully change your feelings over how this can best be handled to make it a better experience for all of us. I know you guys both like me, too, so I feel that it's OK to post these things. If you are mad after reading them, please PM me and I'll appologize some more.
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