Avian Gamers Network

Forum
It is currently Wed May 07, 2025 2:18 pm

View unanswered posts | View active topics


Board index » Public Avian Gamers Forums » Avian Gamers - General Forum

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 27 posts ] 
  Print view Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
dbakke
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:18 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:18 pm
Posts: 2740
Location: North Carolina In '07
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150340,00.html

This story made me laugh because I bought a 7100t about a month ago...and it has all these IM tools already installed...but if you read the announcement it makes it sound like its something coming up...not already in the market.

On the flip side, as I get older and more cynical and paranoid...I begin to wonder how much filtering, watering down, and out right manipulation occurs in the media...much more so than the recently left / right bias claims made against specific organizations.

I always heard the Christian Science Monitor was a well balanced, or "impartial", news service.

What say you?

_________________
Image
Top
 Profile  
 
X2-PB
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:46 pm 
Offline
n00b 4 3v3r
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2001 8:01 pm
Posts: 5412
Location: The Seaside, UK
You know, I think we've had this thread before!


I get mine from the BBC

_________________
X2-PB

Pathfinder Kingmaker Campaign:
Gednan Malithanar - Wizard (1)
Dukin Thunderstrike - Ranger (1)

Star Citizen: - https://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/
AntanKarmola on their forums

Star Wars: The Old Republic: - Not really playing
Antare Karmola - Jedi Guardian (32)
Antan Karmola - Jedi Shadow (21)
Arianae Karmola - Gunslinger (20)
Top
 Profile  
 
Talon1977
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:47 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2003 11:41 am
Posts: 5201
Location: South Carolina, USA
I stopped watching Fox, CNN and basically most everything else mainstream. I occassionally flip it on, only to be disgusted within minutes. Somewhere around 98% of their content is crap I could care less about. Michael Jackson is a freak, Terry Shivo is a sad story, and Scott Peterson should be tortured and executed. But I couldn't care any less about hearing every friggin detail over and over and over again.

Things that are really important to this country, and around the world aren't being covered because apparently the "news" networks get better ratings for the ridiculous rather than reality.

I get my news from the blogs. www.ravnwood.com, http://geekwitha45.blogspot.com, and pretty much everybody they have linked from those two sites is where I go for my news and commentary.

_________________
"Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not yet sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favor; a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defence of custom. But the tumult soon subsides." - Thomas Paine, Common Sense
Top
 Profile  
 
dbakke
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:00 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:18 pm
Posts: 2740
Location: North Carolina In '07
I think you are right X2...did I mention along with cynicism and paranoia that memory loss also comes with age :wink:

There are new folks around the boards and it never hurts to re-visit some topics...

I like the BBC...they are a bit Euro-liberal for my tastes, but I try and be careful not to become too American-centric in my news or opinions (at least without checking out other sources :D ). I say this having spent half almost half my life overseas.

So we've also got a couple blogs and the BCC.

I agree with you Talon. I took some courses in college back in the early 90's when the sensationalization of the news was really beginning to tap widely into the 4th estate.

Where else you folks turn to for objectivity?

_________________
Image
Top
 Profile  
 
Mantison Tau'rus
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:22 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2002 9:01 pm
Posts: 5097
Location: Oklahoma City
I hit pretty much all the sources.... CNN, BBC, Blogs, Drudge, AP Newswire, Rueters Breaking news feeds...

And I always figure everything I read is written by folks who couldn't get a real job and now they are "journalists"... pretty much the lowest possible form of life. But thats just my opinion...

_________________
SW:TOR - Mantison Gunslinger, Ironmant Trooper, Manni Jedi Knight
WoW - Dalaran - Manni 85 Mage, Ironmant 83 Warrior, Mantison 80 Hunter
SWG - Chilastra Retired Mantison, Commando / TKA Master aka Trogdor !!!!
Top
 Profile  
 
Mantison Tau'rus
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:31 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2002 9:01 pm
Posts: 5097
Location: Oklahoma City
PS... for those of you who either ARE journalists or married to them or have parents that are... I was talking about all the OTHER journalists, not you guys... of course....

_________________
SW:TOR - Mantison Gunslinger, Ironmant Trooper, Manni Jedi Knight
WoW - Dalaran - Manni 85 Mage, Ironmant 83 Warrior, Mantison 80 Hunter
SWG - Chilastra Retired Mantison, Commando / TKA Master aka Trogdor !!!!
Top
 Profile  
 
bigyak
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:41 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2003 4:10 pm
Posts: 3574
Location: Fairfax, Virginia
One fo my fraternity brothers is Monica Lewinsky's brother. You wouldn't believe the lack of accuracy in some of the stories that came out back during the entire scandal. We had Hard-Copy try to break into our parties on Friday nights.

There was a 5-page Time news article about each member of their family. The person they claimed was Monica's mother... neither Monica or her brother had ever met or heard of before. The woman was just some random lady that was completely unrelated to their family.

Or, watching what CNN was reporting during Operation Iraqi Freedom... versus what we were watching on the Pentagon. 80% of it was complete and utter nonsense. About 10% was accurate.

_________________
--The Hermit
Top
 Profile  
 
Talon1977
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:32 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2003 11:41 am
Posts: 5201
Location: South Carolina, USA
Yak... you never cease to amaze me. Honestly. Monica... Pentagon... you sir, are a freak of nature. :shock:

Oh yeah, and btw.. BBC.... Isn't BBC a state-funded news organization? If so, you'll never be able to trust a word they say. Even less so than CNN or Fox.

_________________
"Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not yet sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favor; a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defence of custom. But the tumult soon subsides." - Thomas Paine, Common Sense
Top
 Profile  
 
dbakke
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:44 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:18 pm
Posts: 2740
Location: North Carolina In '07
Great, I'll just go sign up for my visitors pass at the Pentagon. I'm sure my out of date security clearance will get me right in... :wink:

which brings me to an interesting idea / point:

One of you all..I think it was Talon... posted about how "the government" had either passed or was about to pass a bill regulating blogs. Didn't read all about it so I'm not too sure about the level of censorship / regulation...

My thought was based on what we've said previously (e.g inaccuracies, sensationalism, etc), your only source of reliable news came from stitching your own quilt of blogs together?

- Drudge for entertainment / scandal although I'm not sure Drudge would pass the objectivity test...
- Talon's blogs on certain libertarian viewpoints related to issues of the day,
- BBC for world news (good point Talon)
- Jane's for defense / war related news (i'm not sure if Jane's is accurate or not...but given Yak's comments and my inability to sit in Pentagon briefing rooms...) it's an option.

hmmm...

_________________
Image
Top
 Profile  
 
Talon1977
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:10 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2003 11:41 am
Posts: 5201
Location: South Carolina, USA
The Bill in question is McCain-Feingold. More info can be found at the second blog I posted a link to above. There are a ton of links with info from the McCain-Feingold Insurrection sites.

As of yet, no level of censorship has been imposed. If at some point you start seeing your favorite blogs disappearing off the internet, you may want to start wondering though.

_________________
"Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not yet sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favor; a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defence of custom. But the tumult soon subsides." - Thomas Paine, Common Sense
Top
 Profile  
 
Obo
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:33 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2001 8:01 pm
Posts: 5315
Location: Dublin
Talon1977 wrote:
Oh yeah, and btw.. BBC.... Isn't BBC a state-funded news organization? If so, you'll never be able to trust a word they say. Even less so than CNN or Fox.

The BBC is funded by the Television Licence Fee in the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/
So it is effectively paid for by the viewers.

I'd trust them way more over the likes of the main US networks to be honest. Although probably to a lesser degree now with the after-effects after the Hutton Enquiry (the government imposing more of an influence).

Other than the news on the radio here and the Irish Times, I mainly use Google News (customised of course).
Top
 Profile  
 
Talon1977
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:33 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2003 11:41 am
Posts: 5201
Location: South Carolina, USA
Thanks for the correction Obo, I wasn't sure what the connection was.

I thought this was kinda fitting for the conversation:

http://www.dustbury.com/archives/003991.html

Quote:
How to annoy Christopher Hanson

A week ago Monday, the Baltimore Sun published an op-ed by Christopher Hanson, professor of journalism at the University of Maryland, which acknowledged the power of blogs but complained that they were no substitute for Big Media. A sample:

Quote:
A great many bloggers are either too self-absorbed to focus on keeping the public informed or too skewed by ideology to put factual accuracy front and center.


Two words: Dan Rather.

But what really vexed me was his gripe about the seeming frivolity of some of us:

Quote:
Case in point: "The Dawn Patrol," Manhattanite Dawn Eden's preening report on Dawn Eden, iconoclastic neoconservative "petite powerhouse," illustrated with Dawn Eden glamour photos.


Some of us like our iconoclasts to be sorta glamourous when they can. It's not essential or anything — nobody is on my blogroll on the basis of physical appearance — but what's the harm?

Since this sort of thing apparently disturbs Professor Hanson greatly, I'm collecting glamour shots of bloggers for The Annoy Christopher Hanson Campaign. If you'd like to participate and possibly be singled out for abuse in his next op-ed, feel free.

Posted at 9:19 PM to Blogorrhea

_________________
"Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not yet sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favor; a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defence of custom. But the tumult soon subsides." - Thomas Paine, Common Sense
Top
 Profile  
 
Locke_Trinmin
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:06 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 11, 2002 8:01 pm
Posts: 3053
Deleted


Last edited by Locke_Trinmin on Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:29 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
bigyak
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:10 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2003 4:10 pm
Posts: 3574
Location: Fairfax, Virginia
Here are my favorite blogs (in a convienient OPML file if you want to import it into FeedDemon 9best blogging software out there!).

Code:
<opml version="1.1" xmlns:fd="http://www.bradsoft.com/feeddemon/xmlns/1.0/">
<head><title>Yaks Feeds</title></head><body>
<outline text="A PowerPoint Blog" title="A PowerPoint Blog" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://feeds.feedburner.com/APowerpointBlog"
  htmlUrl="http://www.indezine.com/blog/index.html"/>
<outline text="Avian Gamers Network" title="Avian Gamers Network" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://www.avian-gamers.net/forums/rss_browser_specific.php"
  htmlUrl="http://www.avian-gamers.net/forums/"/>
<outline text="collision detection" title="collision detection" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://www.collisiondetection.net/index.xml"
  htmlUrl="http://www.collisiondetection.net/"/>
<outline text="Engadget" title="Engadget" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://www.engadget.com/rss.xml"
  htmlUrl="http://www.engadget.com/" description="Engadget"/>
<outline text="kottke.org remainders" title="kottke.org remainders" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://www.kottke.org/remainder/index.rdf"
  htmlUrl="http://www.kottke.org/remainder/" description="kottke.org remainders"/>
<outline text="making and breaking games" title="making and breaking games" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://www.planetcerulean.com/candle/b2rss.php"
  htmlUrl="http://www.planetcerulean.com/candle/index.php"/>
<outline text="Physics Org" title="Physics Org" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://www.physorg.com/physorg.xml"
  htmlUrl="http://www.physorg.com"/>
<outline text="Slashdot:" title="Slashdot:" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://slashdot.org/slashdot.rdf"
  htmlUrl="http://slashdot.org/"/>
<outline text="Technology Review Feed v2.1" title="Technology Review Feed v2.1" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://www.techreview.com/newsfeed/rss/trrd_newsfeed.xml"
  htmlUrl="http://www.technologyreview.com"/>
<outline text="Terra Nova" title="Terra Nova" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/index.rdf"
  htmlUrl="http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/"/>
<outline text="The Register - Security" title="The Register - Security" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/headlines.rss"
  htmlUrl="http://www.theregister.co.uk/"/>
<outline text="The Register - Software: Developer" title="The Register - Software: Developer" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://www.theregister.co.uk/software/dev/headlines.rss"
  htmlUrl="http://www.theregister.co.uk/"/>
<outline text="WIL WHEATON dot NET: Where is my mind?" title="WIL WHEATON dot NET: Where is my mind?" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://www.wilwheaton.net/mt/index.xml"
  htmlUrl="http://www.wilwheaton.net/" description="WIL WHEATON dot NET: Where is my mind?"/>
<outline text="Wired News" title="Wired News" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://www.wired.com/news_drop/netcenter/netcenter.rdf"
  htmlUrl="http://www.wired.com/"/>
<outline text="XmlTeam's WebLog" title="XmlTeam's WebLog" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://blogs.msdn.com/xmlteam/Rss.aspx"
  htmlUrl="http://blogs.msdn.com/xmlteam/"/>
<outline text="Yahoo! News: Wireless and Mobile Technology" title="Yahoo! News: Wireless and Mobile Technology" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://rss.news.yahoo.com/rss/wireless"
  htmlUrl="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=index&amp;cid=1899"/>
<outline text="Zen of Design" title="Zen of Design" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://booboo.phpwebhosting.com/~ubiq/wp-rss2.php"
  htmlUrl="http://booboo.phpwebhosting.com/~ubiq"/>
<outline text="Wonderland" title="Wonderland" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://crystaltips.typepad.com/wonderland/index.rdf"
  htmlUrl="http://crystaltips.typepad.com/wonderland/"/>
<outline text="New World Notes" title="New World Notes" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://secondlife.blogs.com/nwn/atom.xml"
  htmlUrl="http://secondlife.blogs.com/nwn/"/>
<outline text="Linden Lab Ops" title="Linden Lab Ops" type="rss" version="RSS" xmlUrl="http://secondlife.blogs.com/ops/atom.xml"
  htmlUrl="http://secondlife.blogs.com/ops/"/>
</body></opml>

_________________
--The Hermit
Top
 Profile  
 
Talon1977
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:24 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2003 11:41 am
Posts: 5201
Location: South Carolina, USA
Locke_Trinmin wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
http://www.nytimes.com/


The Axis of Evil :P :twisted:



Oh yeah... forgot. Here's one more reliable source of news. http://www.theonion.com/

_________________
"Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not yet sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favor; a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defence of custom. But the tumult soon subsides." - Thomas Paine, Common Sense
Top
 Profile  
 
dbakke
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:12 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:18 pm
Posts: 2740
Location: North Carolina In '07
hehe...i've read the onion on many occasions. Sometimes a bit too dry for me. I prefer Benny Hill, the Black Adders, and Fawlty Towers type of humor...

To your previous post about the Baltimore Sun guy...I got one name that'll set his hair on end: Ann Coulter

Thanks Yak!

_________________
Image
Top
 Profile  
 
bigyak
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:18 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2003 4:10 pm
Posts: 3574
Location: Fairfax, Virginia
Talon1977 wrote:
Locke_Trinmin wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
http://www.nytimes.com/


The Axis of Evil :P :twisted:



Yeah, obviously Locke is young enough that he believes in Democrats and their media. For a student of history, I'd also recommend reading a dash of Fox News in there... not because it should align with your personal view of how the universe should behave, but for the complete opposite reason... because that's where learning comes from.

_________________
--The Hermit
Top
 Profile  
 
Locke_Trinmin
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:41 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 11, 2002 8:01 pm
Posts: 3053
Deleted


Last edited by Locke_Trinmin on Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:28 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
X2-PB
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:36 am 
Offline
n00b 4 3v3r
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2001 8:01 pm
Posts: 5412
Location: The Seaside, UK
Locke_Trinmin wrote:
I believe in democracy.
You have my pity! :P

_________________
X2-PB

Pathfinder Kingmaker Campaign:
Gednan Malithanar - Wizard (1)
Dukin Thunderstrike - Ranger (1)

Star Citizen: - https://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/
AntanKarmola on their forums

Star Wars: The Old Republic: - Not really playing
Antare Karmola - Jedi Guardian (32)
Antan Karmola - Jedi Shadow (21)
Arianae Karmola - Gunslinger (20)
Top
 Profile  
 
madmike
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:40 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:17 pm
Posts: 147
Location: Midlands UK
and mine too :P

_________________
President Green Team Racing (GTR) YRM
My website link.
Top
 Profile  
 
Talon1977
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:16 am 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2003 11:41 am
Posts: 5201
Location: South Carolina, USA
Ok ok... time to put the brakes on again. before I start breakin' heads!

_________________
"Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not yet sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favor; a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defence of custom. But the tumult soon subsides." - Thomas Paine, Common Sense
Top
 Profile  
 
dbakke
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:01 am 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:18 pm
Posts: 2740
Location: North Carolina In '07
wait, wait....I thought we were a Republic. :wink:

One of these days were gonna have an election close enough to really bring out the faithless electors.

Can't wait for the fireworks on that one :)

Oh wait didn't....

_________________
Image
Top
 Profile  
 
Talon1977
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:27 am 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2003 11:41 am
Posts: 5201
Location: South Carolina, USA
ROFL... and yes, we are a REPUBLIC, not a democracy.

_________________
"Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not yet sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favor; a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defence of custom. But the tumult soon subsides." - Thomas Paine, Common Sense
Top
 Profile  
 
Moon
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:29 pm
Posts: 296
Location: UK
Whilst the BBC might be funded by the licence payers, it is controlled by the Government.

I get my news from 8)

http://www.rense.com

_________________
Exponential Expansion of Consciousness, Coming Soon to a Planet Near You!

Enter MoonWorld
Top
 Profile  
 
Cyrus Rex
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:20 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 9:01 pm
Posts: 2417
Location: Baton Rouge, LA / Kuwait / Kandahar
BBC is funded by the public…
PBS is funded by the public... but the slant there would make a hell of a water slide.
Top
 Profile  
 
Romsuiag
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:02 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 24, 2002 9:01 pm
Posts: 7692
Location: Chicago, IL
Yeah, mainstream news (FOX and CNN) is pretty much crap. I try to get my news from different viewpoints and take it all with a grain of salt.

_________________
Romsuiag (Brad)
Former and Third President of Avian
Top
 Profile  
 
dbakke
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:38 pm 
Offline
Spammer
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 4:18 pm
Posts: 2740
Location: North Carolina In '07
http://www.slate.com

Got this website from a business week article I was reading:

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/co ... _mz016.htm

Apparently the slate.com writers disclose their party affiliations. Anyone read, seen, et this site before?

_________________
Image
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 1
  [ 27 posts ] 

Board index » Public Avian Gamers Forums » Avian Gamers - General Forum

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group