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Anyone currently playing or has played EVE online?

I've been looking into it recently and it looks interesting.

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http://www.avian-gamers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15018&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=eve


Basically, there's about a half dozen or less Avians who've tried it at one point or another...

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Ah hah, so no one really liked it then?

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meh It was kinda fun and the community and ingame Corp (i was in the Pastor Tech School) was a good group of guys but the game never really caught on with me...no advancement for deeds really...all time based etc...

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Ryric Krael
Former Vice President AGN
Former Director, Section 6
Former Head of Department of the Treasury
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"Gone Section Five"

Played the beta for a couple weeks, didn't like the game at all. Might be due to lack of patience and not really getting into the game though, so don't weigh my words to heavily.

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"It's sort of a philosophical question...if a tissue fails to modify a skill that doesn't exist, and no one is around, will any devs hear you screaming?"

I haven't played it, but I've read a good bit about it. From what I've heard there is a bit of a barrier to entry for a solo player, and the game only really comes into it's own at the Corporation level. And to emphasis that, this is a great story

http://www.mmodig.com/?p=155#comments

Like or loath the actions, it is that level of possibility space in virtual worlds that I find interesting in MMOs, not Diku-MUDs.
I even look back at our own city building confrontations with the Imperials in SWG with fondness at this stage, because that all came about from player groups interacting and making our own game.

So I keep looking in on Eve... maybe one day I'll play .

I remember that day fondly Obbo. Man did we have some pissed of Avians then.

Come to think of it, I think that's where K'Rynn's streak of hatred (and dark side tendencies) all began. But damn did it feel good to DB a few of those Imps who forgot to go covert while wandering alone around the area. (yeah, riflemen/riflewomen rock!)

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"I built me a bomb and dropped it on every MFer who got in my way!"

That event encapsulated more essence of Star Wars than anything else in the game.


I still think our Naboo cite would have been the best Naboo city on our server… if only the devs would have created a better city implementing plan. They said it would take weeks, we did it in minutes. All the other cities were just outside existing dev cities… that sucked.

Hmm, that article looks familar! It was from reading that that I started looking into EVE Online. It's a shame that they couldn't implement that sort of player controlled freedom in SWG.

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Antare Karmola - Jedi Guardian (32)
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Arianae Karmola - Gunslinger (20)

I'm tempted to go at it again, but would probably wait to see if a half dozen or so others got in as well...

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no one willing to take the plunge

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nah...lots of free 14 day trials of it around though...

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Ryric Krael
Former Vice President AGN
Former Director, Section 6
Former Head of Department of the Treasury
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Ask not what your PA can do for you, but what you can do for your PA
"Gone Section Five"

At the end of Beta a RL friend of mine and some of our online cohorts setup an online radio station called NENR (New Edin Network Radio). We had a vintrillo server and all that good stuff. I had a realy blast playing with all those guys and having the online radio station, etc. After release most of us didn't buy because there was still so much lacking from the game, we didn't feel like it was worth the money.

Later one I tried to play again, but I got really tired of it after a week or so. It can be really fun if you've got a group of friends that play a lot and you guys get a corporation going. Go be pirates in the low security areas, etc ...

If you solo a lot though, don't bother buying it. It gets so boring really fast. All your skills increase via real time, so you basically select a skill to start increasing and it raises in x amount of time weather your online or not. The skill and level will determine how long it takes to raise. Starts out a like 30 minutes - 1 hour and goes up to a very weeks if I remember right.

Anyways, it's a skill based game and can be fun. It just depends on what kind of gamer you are. You'll find yourself sitting and staring at the screen, watching your ship mine for hours. Even during combat it can be kind of slow...

If you're looking a game to try I'd recommend Neocron 2 (actually it's just Neocron, they just did some upgrades and added an expansion pack. hehe) That was a really fun game with a very unique setup. I would still be playing it if I had some friends playing. It reminds me of the dice game Shadowrun. =)

lol you guys remember when we had that radio station? who ran that? I just remember cyrus being interviewed one night.

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Ryric Krael
Former Vice President AGN
Former Director, Section 6
Former Head of Department of the Treasury
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Ask not what your PA can do for you, but what you can do for your PA
"Gone Section Five"

Some guy who was in Section 2, but didn't stick around very long. Name escapes me though.

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Romsuiag (Brad)
Former and Third President of Avian

Was it Odds?

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doubt it he didn't stick around all that long...after either MGJ or LA left don't remember which

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Ryric Krael
Former Vice President AGN
Former Director, Section 6
Former Head of Department of the Treasury
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Ask not what your PA can do for you, but what you can do for your PA
"Gone Section Five"

No, but I think he used the same avatar as him. This is going to bug me. I bet Cyrus might remember since those 2 seemed to mingle a good bit.

Hmm, I tihnk the name started with an A

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/drags this back from the pits of nowhere.

I'm dloading the free trial client now. Might as wel I guess.

http://www.eve-online.com/download/

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Moge

Moge ?= Bored

Looks that way.

either that, or his current games don't satisfy his thirst.

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I'd actually just been looking at it again today.
I had done the trial before, but didn't do too much. Probably put off by the learning curve and that it probably isn't solo friendly when you get into it.

The game I most like to watch and really want to enjoy.
But I think I might try it for a while now that my two swg subs are gone.

The learning curve is kinda crazy but Im a few hours in and Im SLOWLY getting it.

I found this link most helpful:
http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g01.asp

Mainly I need to read up on the skill sets ans ships. Namely, what profession I want to be and what ships I should use for it and skills (and what order toget them).

I just bought my first Fighter, a condor. It is pretty cool. Just need to make some ISK to buy new parts for it.

The travel thing does kinda suck but I use the jump time to read the boards, FAQs and tutorials.

Nanasawa is my current toon but I'll probably role a trader soon enough with Moge as the name.

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Moge

Things Ive learned.

Im a Caldari, if I choose military school an d then all the options that give Frigate skills I can get a class 4 Frigate cert out of the gate. Doing this saves you hours and hour and hours (and hours) of training time for a non-noob ship.

I fly a Condor which seems to be the standard step up for fighters in the Caldari world. Kestral would be the expensive preference.

Spend most of your initial training time in the Learning Tree. If you do not have any Learning Tree skills you can buy them in the market. Doing this will slow you down initially but the learning tree gives bonuses to Wisdom, Mind etc so it will speed up your training in the long run.

Also, you continue training when you are offline. So before you logout set your traingin to something that will take longer than you think you will be offline for. Eg. 12-24+ hours. Once you log back in change your trainging to something that only takes an hour or so. All training is saved if your swap from skill to skill.

If you have alts (up to 3) you can only have ONE of them train at a time.
You can send money (ISK) and items (via Escrow) to your alts.

The game is a bit boring at times. 4 jumps takes about 5 minutes. But to get a ship or part you sometimes have to jump 13-20 and then return! ouch.

Im still learning but I am do Ill post more. All in all, if anything else, it is a facinating concept for a game. Also, the reason the community is so known for being so solid is that you do spend a large amount of time chatting in the Corp window.

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Moge

If you use the autopilot it takes a long time to move between jumps, but I've read you can manually use bookmarks to jump directly to the gates

okay guys this is how you gate jump...properly

Creating bookmarks

im going too use an example of a Base to Minefield because thats what I used alot of when i played (makes mining and selling quicker)

Go to minefield select a good area you wish to mine and bookmark it.

Warp to base and dock.

Exit base and warp to bookmark.

After warp continue on past your bookmark 10-11k (think thats the distance)

place new bookmark and delete old one.

Warp back to Base and continue on a straight path 10k or so past the base.

place bookmark.

Warp drops you 10kish from your actually target what these bookmarks do is put u much closer to your mark. with the warpgates/base this is especially helpfull because it allows you to dock instantly instead of waiting around for you to move in closer.

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I did pastor tech school when I played and got a couple of nice little ships a frigate for fighting and one fore mining and a cargo vessel for hauling my loot.

If your mining the best way to go about it is to jettison a container (just drop some of the mineral) and a container appears... name it whatever it will last about 60minutes and just mine away as long as you want...you can switch containers if u think its getting to close to 60minute dissapearing mark. then at the end switch to a hauling ship or just use the one your using and haul ur cargo away making several trips probably...saves time and annoyance of cargo full gotta to back to base type stuff. Note: Cargo containers are not secure! you can buy secure ones but they do not have infinite space like the jett'd ones. I never had a problem with it...but people can steal from those containers...most won't but still...best to mine alone or with friends

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Ryric Krael
Former Vice President AGN
Former Director, Section 6
Former Head of Department of the Treasury
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Ask not what your PA can do for you, but what you can do for your PA
"Gone Section Five"

Haven't followed the game. Too lazy to find the info about it myself.

Could anyone give us lazy members a heads up about the game?

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1st Feb 2008

Well Im still playing. It is a completely new way of playing an MMO. If you are into design and concept it is seriously worth a week of your time.

Example. Look at the way that the Devs communicate with the Guilds (corporations).
http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a= ... =924&tid=4



This game is full emmersion. Also, it's kinda fun to know that you are training while offline. You plan things out longterm.


As for RP. You can seriously RP in this game. You can very literally be a pirate, a savious, a miner, a CEO, anything you want really. A priate is full on PVP (as is the entire game but I have yet to have a problem). A pirate runs around takes out PC transports, dodges the Feds (who will come to aid any ship in certain systems.

I think having a Corporation in the game would rule. You can build Stations (that function!) you can organize massive raids on your enemies and you have to play serious politics to stay in the game.

More and more this game is really turning out amazing. One for the Dev hall of fame if nothing else based soley of unique gameplay.

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Moge

they most be getting a decent input of new players if Rens is overcrowding... its one of the higher security systems Noobs from the pastor tech school vist alot (from personal experiance)

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Ryric Krael
Former Vice President AGN
Former Director, Section 6
Former Head of Department of the Treasury
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Ask not what your PA can do for you, but what you can do for your PA
"Gone Section Five"

The main issue many people have is the travel times.
I agree, but there are skills that greatly reduce this time.

Afterbuner IV + Navigation IV = MicroDrives. these get you almost right on top of a Jump point of Docking point. This prevents you from coming out of warp then having to Afterburn it to location which is what eats your time.

Warp Drive II or III greatly increases your capacitor so you can stay in Warp Drive longer. As a noob you exit warp drive 2-3 times per sector becuase you lack the capacitor to take you there in one warp.

These things together make for an almost 300% increase in travel times.


Oh and this movie kicks butt:
http://myeve.eve-online.com/download/vi ... ad&vid=143

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Moge

Have been in as Obbo for the past few days. I've been trying to make some money doing some mining, as I wasted a bit of it making some stupid buys. I bought a skill I already knew .

I think my plan atm is to get up some skills and money, then get an Industrial ship and start doing some trade runs.

As for what Eve is about, this outlines it pretty well.
http://www.walkering.com/walkerings/200 ... ublic.html

That's a pretty neat story. I thought that player driven content was going to be the idea in SWG but the economy was such that nothing like this needed to occur.

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All the ships to scale.


The Titans come out in the next patch. Those are the really really big ones.

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Moge

Man, they all look ugly, aren't there any nice looking ships out there?

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Pathfinder Kingmaker Campaign:
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Star Wars: The Old Republic: - Not really playing
Antare Karmola - Jedi Guardian (32)
Antan Karmola - Jedi Shadow (21)
Arianae Karmola - Gunslinger (20)

Found a nice little program that allows you to have useful 'full screen' windowed-mode.
Windowed mode in Eve leaves the bar at the top of the window and it's hard to position the window correctly. Also for me if the window overlaps onto my other screen the game lags really bad. And I like the game in windowed mode rather than real full screen, as alt-tabing in full screen is a bit of a pain.

This program strips away the title bar and positions the window at the top left had corner.

http://www.swike.com/evefs/

Moge, that movie is awesome...nice little soundtrack too from Junkie XL.

Every time I try and get into this game I get turned off by the mind numbingly boring noob chores of mining or trading...takes a LONG time to get past this part of the game.

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true it does. Thankfully Ive been loaded with work this week so I just set it for long trainings and crash out, wake up set it and go to work. I just got my microwarp drive tonight, all that is 4 days solid training so having 4 days away from home was kinda a bonus.

tomorrow will be the first time I can actually move aorund at a reasonable speed.

As I mentioned eariler. What makes travel such a pain is warping several times in seach vector as well as coming out of warp 10k away from the station or jump site. Microwave drive and the skills you need to get one really help in all these areas.

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Moge

well damn!
I was mislead. The Microwarp drive does not do what it was told it does. It is basically just an AB but more burst speed than constant speed. Oh well, 3 days training down the tubes.

I may have to look into the Waypoint thing for warping closer but that seem slike more work than it may be worth unless you know you will be jumping ot that location more than say 5 times.

Im also about ready for my next ship upgrade into a Cruiser. I just need the 4.5mil ISK to buy it. I have 1.5 mil now. I may try mining for a short bit. Killing things is fun though, with my Kestrel ad 3 missle bays they all go down fast.

My next ship will have 4 missle bays and 2 turret bays.

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Moge

Any chance I can borrow 600k?

How possible is it to simply be a transporter? Is combat is a requirement or can you choose to play defensively and focus on a commercial aspect?

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"The english language is not a wedding gown, it doesn't get better the more lace you add. It is instead a thong. Less is more." From /.
I need to remind myself of this regularly.